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    Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    In a NewsOK blog this week, Berry Tramel ranks the non-conference schedules, and casts ISU in a positive light:

    Big 12 football: Ranking the non-conference schedules | News OK



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    The positive light is all relative. KSU and Baylor non-cons are absolutely embarrassing. The whole conference really needs to ramp things up.



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by MIClone View Post
    The positive light is all relative. KSU and Baylor non-cons are absolutely embarrassing. The whole conference really needs to ramp things up.
    9 conference games.





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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    I think we usually always make his top 5.



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Didn't realize WVU was playing two FCS teams. Seems strange since moving to the Big XII meant an extra conference game, not the loss of one.

    But wow, does the bottom 60% of that list stink. Us and Oklahoma have three decent games, Texas has two decent games, TCU only has one decent game but it is a doozy. After that, not much. WVU vs. Maryland is somwhat respectable and so is Okie light vs. Mississippi State. But that's about it.


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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    I like how he calls UNI and Tulsa 2 losable games, plus one in-state foe.



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    WVU and Maryland are rivals of sorts I believe. And isn't the 2 FCS schools a result of the cancelled FSU series?



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by cycophagus View Post
    In a NewsOK blog this week, Berry Tramel ranks the non-conference schedules, and casts ISU in a positive light:

    Big 12 football: Ranking the non-conference schedules | News OK
    I really wish when people start threads like this they would just say what we all wanna know in the OP. Too lazy to click the link and read.....yet not too lazy to write this.



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by cycophagus View Post
    In a NewsOK blog this week, Berry Tramel ranks the non-conference schedules, and casts ISU in a positive light:

    Big 12 football: Ranking the non-conference schedules | News OK
    I enjoy analysis like this (and my own re-ranking is coming shortly ... of course! ) ---

    Fairly good assessment, but one extreme flaw: How does OU get "credit" for UL-Monroe ("Louisiana-Monroe isn’t even in the pushover category anymore...") but it doesn't elevate Baylor whatsoever ("... not one decent opponent ...")?



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    I enjoy analysis like this (and my own re-ranking is coming shortly ... of course! ) ---

    Fairly good assessment, but one extreme flaw: How does OU get "credit" for UL-Monroe ("Louisiana-Monroe isn’t even in the pushover category anymore...") but it doesn't elevate Baylor whatsoever ("... not one decent opponent ...")?
    Answer: It's an Oklahoma writer.



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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    That bottom half is just embarrassing.

    Having schedules like that and then getting embarrassed in bowl games is quite detrimental to the perception of this conference.


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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    It'll be tough for WVU to make a bowl as they will have to win 4 Big 12 games, assuming they go undefeated in non con. Only 1 FCS win counts towards bowl eligibility(quite frankly, I don't think any win over a FCS team should count).


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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    WVU does not play 2 FCS teams. Georgia State is moving to the Sun Belt conference starting this year.


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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAgronomist View Post
    9 conference games.
    And?

    I'd be just as happy dropping the FCS schools altogether, and playing another Tulsa-level game.

    Shoot, for that matter, when CPR gets it rolling, bring on the bigger schools in that slot.


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    Re: Berry Tramel ranks Big XII non-con schedules

    ISU does not have the Non-Con schedule it has because it wants too. It has it because it has too. I would drop Iowa in a heartbeat and replace them with Stephen f. Austin tomorrow. We scheduled Tulsa before they got good (which seems to happen all the time btw). Baylor, KU, Tech and KSU all schedule like that for a very important reason...they've got to get wins were they can find them. ISU is in the same boat but can't get out of the Iowa game and keeps getting the worst luck in scheduling teams that blow up after scheduling them (Utah, Tulsa, etc.).



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