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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    Quote Originally Posted by pdxclone View Post
    As usual, coaching changes are good news and bad news.

    Good news
    The new coach will be more even handed between women's and men's teams.
    The new coach can bring in better training methods that will keep athletes healthy and therefore more competitive.
    The new coach will be able to attract a higher level of recruit especially with the facilities ISU has in place.
    [B]Corey Ihmels is a turd sandwich[B]

    Bad news
    What do top recruits like Anna Holdiman think?
    Ihmels did have success this year winning the Big 12 Women's XC Championship.
    Will Lisa Uhl remain involved with the program since she and Kiel just moved back from Portland.

    Overall it seems like a strange move but considering JW Hardy was out at Boise State in April. Ihmels must have had a eye on leaving for a some time. Not better facilities, not a better conference, low talent on roster, lateral move on salary ... hmmmm.



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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    Quote Originally Posted by pdxclone View Post
    Your opinion ... I'm familiar with Boise's current roster and who they have recruited over the last 5 years and they are not at the level ISU was at when he took over ... they are worse.

    Go back and look at the HS times of athletes in both programs and you will see the difference.
    Your opinion as well... ISU was downright not good in Track and Field in 2006-2007. We sent Neil Heins and scored 5 points on the mens side (good enough for 46th) I think we only sent like 2 or 3 people on the women's side and got 46th as well with no AA.

    Just because that roster had Freshman versions of Bor, Marial and a Sophomore Kyle Uhl on the mens side, and then Freshman Lisa Kohl doesn't mean that it was better than a team that this year sent 4 people to the the Championships and had a SO two time AA. Our lone AA the season before Cory took over was a Senior.

    That adds to the level of impressiveness of what Cory did. Iowa was the better program in the state, hands down, now it is completely the opposite, and we aren't getting 2nd to last in the Big 12s constantly. We should be able to land a very good coach now whereas we had to dig for an assistant on staff when he took over because we were that bad off.

    We can play "I know more than you" all day but it is just going to end up making us both look silly debating track and field when most of the people on here have absolutely no interest. Heck, the guy who put ISU back on the map in a sport that has actually been competing for Conference and National Championships up and left, and we get 2 pages. If volleyball, football, wrestling or basketball had their ASSISTANT coaches there would be 10 pages at this point. Heck if Scott Drew at Baylor left out of nowhere we would be at more pages on this site.



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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    Sounds like Boise State got a new Track/Cross Country coach with the same strategy that ISU used to recruit their MBB coach: Go after a successful former alum. It might be a lateral move on paper, but with the intagibles it looks like he's going up a step. Good luck to him in the future, and thanks for what he did while he was here.


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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonetrombone View Post
    Your opinion as well... ISU was downright not good in Track and Field in 2006-2007. We sent Neil Heins and scored 5 points on the mens side (good enough for 46th) I think we only sent like 2 or 3 people on the women's side and got 46th as well with no AA.

    Just because that roster had Freshman versions of Bor, Marial and a Sophomore Kyle Uhl on the mens side, and then Freshman Lisa Kohl doesn't mean that it was better than a team that this year sent 4 people to the the Championships and had a SO two time AA. Our lone AA the season before Cory took over was a Senior.

    That adds to the level of impressiveness of what Cory did. Iowa was the better program in the state, hands down, now it is completely the opposite, and we aren't getting 2nd to last in the Big 12s constantly. We should be able to land a very good coach now whereas we had to dig for an assistant on staff when he took over because we were that bad off.

    We can play "I know more than you" all day but it is just going to end up making us both look silly debating track and field when most of the people on here have absolutely no interest. Heck, the guy who put ISU back on the map in a sport that has actually been competing for Conference and National Championships up and left, and we get 2 pages. If volleyball, football, wrestling or basketball had their ASSISTANT coaches there would be 10 pages at this point. Heck if Scott Drew at Baylor left out of nowhere we would be at more pages on this site.

    Well duh. Gloating is much more fun than mourning the loss of a good coach. And where Scott "bag which douches" Drew is concerned, gloating is the only game in town.


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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    Quote Originally Posted by MoreCowbell View Post
    I'm more bummed for the assistant coaches. My husband is good friends with quite a few of them, and they'll most likely be looking for new jobs.
    Perhaps this an opportunity for one of them. They may also stay if they impress the new coach or have a good relationship to the coach. Many times it is a connection that brought them to Ames in the first place. The job will probably go to someone with a connection already established.



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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    Quote Originally Posted by CYlent Bob View Post
    Sounds like Boise State got a new Track/Cross Country coach with the same strategy that ISU used to recruit their MBB coach: Go after a successful former alum.
    Except that Ihmels is an alum of ISU, not Boise State.



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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    Here is what the DSM Reg reported today:
    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/art...program?Sports

    It looks mostly like a personal decision based on liking it when he lived there and wanting to go back and raise his family there.

    FROM THE ARTICLE:

    Ihmels approached Iowa State athletic director Jamie Pollard about the possibility of him leaving six weeks ago. The decision for Ihmels, who coached 51 All-Americans in his tenure at Iowa State, wasn’t easy.

    Ultimately, the lifestyle of the West, which Ihmels and his wife are both familiar with, better suited them and their two children.

    “He’s been grinding on this for a month and a half,” Pollard said Friday night. “He and I spent a lot of time together at the NCAA track meet last week, trying to help him soul-search and figure out what was going to be right for his family.”


    ...

    Iowa State has already spent time looking for a replacement.

    “We’re already well into the search,” Pollard said. “I spent time with the Nike folks last week in anticipation of this.”

    Pollard was confident that despite the sudden change, Iowa State would continue its success both in track and cross country.

    “Our program will be fine,” Pollard said. “It’s a speed bump, and we’re sad to see Corey leave, but he’s put the program in a great position and it’s very attractive to a lot of people.”



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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    Perhaps this is idiotic but wouldn't high altitude campuses be at an advantage for this sport? For all I know Boise is in some valley but I know there are mountains nearby at least. Why wouldn't the most serious athletes and coaches want to be at high altitudes?



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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    Perhaps this is idiotic but wouldn't high altitude campuses be at an advantage for this sport? For all I know Boise is in some valley but I know there are mountains nearby at least. Why wouldn't the most serious athletes and coaches want to be at high altitudes?
    Colorado used to be a powerhouse in the Big 12 in X-Country for this very reason I believe.



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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    Quote Originally Posted by HFCS View Post
    Perhaps this is idiotic but wouldn't high altitude campuses be at an advantage for this sport? For all I know Boise is in some valley but I know there are mountains nearby at least. Why wouldn't the most serious athletes and coaches want to be at high altitudes?
    This is what I thought immediately. However, I could easily be wrong on this, but I think the best way is to live high and train low, and Boise isn't even over 3000 ft. I'm sure the elevation would give them more training options, though.



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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    UPDATE:

    Subject: Update from your Director of Athletics


    Dear Cross Country and Track and Field Student Athletes,


    I am writing you this morning at 3:15 a.m. (Saturday morning) because I am wide awake and can’t sleep. I can’t sleep not because I am stressed or worried about the future of our program. On the contrary, I can’t sleep because my mind is racing about the excitement and opportunity we have before us right now to elevate our program to an entirely different level. I can’t sleep because I feel a sense of responsibility to each of you to do my absolute best to find each of you, our program and our institution a new coach who will take the baton we are handing him or her and win the race for us.


    Coach Ihmels and his staff, as well as each of you, have done a tremendous job revitalizing our program to national prominence. People now know Iowa State University is in the race – simply put, we matter! However, much like a track race, it is not how you start but how you finish. We need to find a coach that will help each of you finish your own race at Iowa State with the same energy, passion and excitement that you have had in the beginning of your race at Iowa State. It doesn’t matter if you are a senior or an incoming freshman, we owe you the opportunity to have the best possible experience you can have and we plan to see that happens for each and every one of you.


    The good news is there is tremendous interest in our program. In addition, with the United States track and field championships in Des Moines this week, it provides an opportunity for us to meet with some of the most talented coaches in the country. Furthermore, as some of you know, my family and I spent a week of vacation in Eugene, Oregon last week supporting our student-athletes who were competing in the national meet. Because Coach Ihmels and I have been talking about his interest in moving back out west for some time, I also took the opportunity to meet with several officials and coaches that work for Nike (with some of the world’s greatest track and field athletes) about our program and possible coaches should Coach Ihmels leave Iowa State.


    Needless to say, I have already put the information I gained from those meetings and discussions to work and have set-up interviews with multiple coaches for next week. Part of the reason I can’t sleep is I spent most of the day on Friday talking with several national championship level coaches about everything we have going for us at Iowa State. The more I think about and talk with coaches about it, the more excited I get. There is simply no reason in the world our program can’t be the best program in the Big 12 and compete for national championships. Anyone who thinks differently simply doesn’t get it. The bottom line is I am extremely confident that we will find an outstanding coach and I want each of you to know we are All-In on this process.


    Please keep your heads held high and keep working hard in both the classroom and on the track, roads or weight room. Embrace the uncertainty about the future as an opportunity to get even better than what we originally thought we could do. I know that is how I am approaching this challenge.


    Go Cyclones!





    Jamie Pollard
    Director of Athletics
    Iowa State University
    Jacobson Athletic Building
    Ames, Iowa 50011-1140
    (515) 294-0123



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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    Quote Originally Posted by TruClone View Post
    UPDATE:

    Subject: Update from your Director of Athletics


    Dear Cross Country and Track and Field Student Athletes,


    I am writing you this morning at 3:15 a.m. (Saturday morning) because I am wide awake and can’t sleep. I can’t sleep not because I am stressed or worried about the future of our program. On the contrary, I can’t sleep because my mind is racing about the excitement and opportunity we have before us right now to elevate our program to an entirely different level. I can’t sleep because I feel a sense of responsibility to each of you to do my absolute best to find each of you, our program and our institution a new coach who will take the baton we are handing him or her and win the race for us.


    Coach Ihmels and his staff, as well as each of you, have done a tremendous job revitalizing our program to national prominence. People now know Iowa State University is in the race – simply put, we matter! However, much like a track race, it is not how you start but how you finish. We need to find a coach that will help each of you finish your own race at Iowa State with the same energy, passion and excitement that you have had in the beginning of your race at Iowa State. It doesn’t matter if you are a senior or an incoming freshman, we owe you the opportunity to have the best possible experience you can have and we plan to see that happens for each and every one of you.


    The good news is there is tremendous interest in our program. In addition, with the United States track and field championships in Des Moines this week, it provides an opportunity for us to meet with some of the most talented coaches in the country. Furthermore, as some of you know, my family and I spent a week of vacation in Eugene, Oregon last week supporting our student-athletes who were competing in the national meet. Because Coach Ihmels and I have been talking about his interest in moving back out west for some time, I also took the opportunity to meet with several officials and coaches that work for Nike (with some of the world’s greatest track and field athletes) about our program and possible coaches should Coach Ihmels leave Iowa State.


    Needless to say, I have already put the information I gained from those meetings and discussions to work and have set-up interviews with multiple coaches for next week. Part of the reason I can’t sleep is I spent most of the day on Friday talking with several national championship level coaches about everything we have going for us at Iowa State. The more I think about and talk with coaches about it, the more excited I get. There is simply no reason in the world our program can’t be the best program in the Big 12 and compete for national championships. Anyone who thinks differently simply doesn’t get it. The bottom line is I am extremely confident that we will find an outstanding coach and I want each of you to know we are All-In on this process.


    Please keep your heads held high and keep working hard in both the classroom and on the track, roads or weight room. Embrace the uncertainty about the future as an opportunity to get even better than what we originally thought we could do. I know that is how I am approaching this challenge.


    Go Cyclones!





    Jamie Pollard
    Director of Athletics
    Iowa State University
    Jacobson Athletic Building
    Ames, Iowa 50011-1140
    (515) 294-0123
    JP is all in. Every sport. All the time.



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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    So this question will probably expose how little I know about track/cross country at the college level, but what is with all the Nike mentions in JP's e-mails? Talks with Nike... Meetings with officials and coaches who work for Nike... Are coaches themselves somehow affiliated with companies like Nike? And then we, as a Nike school, are only able to consider Nike coaches??? I'm confused.



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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    Quote Originally Posted by psychlone99 View Post
    So this question will probably expose how little I know about track/cross country at the college level, but what is with all the Nike mentions in JP's e-mails? Talks with Nike... Meetings with officials and coaches who work for Nike... Are coaches themselves somehow affiliated with companies like Nike? And then we, as a Nike school, are only able to consider Nike coaches??? I'm confused.
    Part of me thinks this is hinting at a coach from the USA Team level and not a college level coach. I do not think college level coaches are able to be contracted with companies however there are numerous coaches that train people on the national level with big company contracts.



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    Re: Corey Ihmels to Boise State

    Quote Originally Posted by psychlone99 View Post
    So this question will probably expose how little I know about track/cross country at the college level, but what is with all the Nike mentions in JP's e-mails? Talks with Nike... Meetings with officials and coaches who work for Nike... Are coaches themselves somehow affiliated with companies like Nike? And then we, as a Nike school, are only able to consider Nike coaches??? I'm confused.
    Part of the answer is here: TrackTown USA Nike Oregon Project - Nike Track Town Olympic Trials Eugene Oregon Info



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