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    Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

    It seems that most TV watchers have been thinking we've been doing a good job in the other thread of not spoiling anything, and maybe it's just me, but I feel like it's a disservice to the TV watchers to even post that certain characters are alive through Book 5, considering Martin's style. Soo...the return of the spoiler thread.



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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

    Good idea Doc. I just restarted book4 last night and got through the prologue, it's been a few years since I read them and I need to get prepped for what on deck next!



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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

    Does anyone know exactly when this year Book 6 is supposed to come out?

    BIG OLD SPOILERS:

    In addition to my theory that Melisandre is going to revive Jon, and that he's Rhaegar's bastard instead of Ned's, I also think Coldhands is Benjen Stark.


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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

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    Does anyone know exactly when this year Book 6 is supposed to come out?

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    In addition to my theory that Melisandre is going to revive Jon, and that he's Rhaegar's bastard instead of Ned's, I also think Coldhands is Benjen Stark.
    I like the theories. I think they make too much sense for Martin to run with them lol.




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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

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    Does anyone know exactly when this year Book 6 is supposed to come out?

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    In addition to my theory that Melisandre is going to revive Jon, and that he's Rhaegar's bastard instead of Ned's, I also think Coldhands is Benjen Stark.
    Jon is the child of Rhaegar and Lyanna. I don't even think is open to debate anymore. Jon definitely isn't permanently dead. I think he warged into Ghost. Mel might revive his body and he'll go back to it next book, or he might take over another body. But I believe he'll be walking around one way or another in the next book.

    I once thought that Benjen was Coldhands, but I don't after A Dance with Dragons. I now think that Coldhands is just some random wight that Lord Bloodraven is ordering about. But I'm not sure on that.



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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cutlass View Post
    Jon is the child of Rhaegar and Lyanna. I don't even think is open to debate anymore. Jon definitely isn't permanently dead. I think he warged into Ghost. Mel might revive his body and he'll go back to it next book, or he might take over another body. But I believe he'll be walking around one way or another in the next book.

    I once thought that Benjen was Coldhands, but I don't after A Dance with Dragons. I now think that Coldhands is just some random wight that Lord Bloodraven is ordering about. But I'm not sure on that.
    I can get behind all of this. Which side do you think Bloodraven is on? The Lord of Light or the Others.



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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by mfelske View Post
    I can get behind all of this. Which side do you think Bloodraven is on? The Lord of Light or the Others.
    Neither. I think he's with the Old Gods and Children of the Forest. A completely separate although seemingly less powerful faction.

    Have you read The Mystery Knight? It's one of the Dunk and Egg stories and Bloodraven shows up in it. I read it a couple months before A Dance with Dragons came out and was literally giddy as a school girl when Bran found Bloodraven.


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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

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    Does anyone know exactly when this year Book 6 is supposed to come out?

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    In addition to my theory that Melisandre is going to revive Jon, and that he's Rhaegar's bastard instead of Ned's, I also think Coldhands is Benjen Stark.
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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    Does anyone know exactly when this year Book 6 is supposed to come out?

    BIG OLD SPOILERS:

    In addition to my theory that Melisandre is going to revive Jon, and that he's Rhaegar's bastard instead of Ned's, I also think Coldhands is Benjen Stark.
    I opened this thread knowing I was going to run into this, but here goes anyway. I must have COMPLETELY missed something in the last book and will now need to re-read it. Jon is dead?

    On a somewhat related topic, does anyone else find it odd that news organizations are writing articles about peoples' reactions to the Red Wedding on the show? Clearly these are all people that have not read the books, I'm not saying they have to to enjoy the show, so OF COURSE they are going to be surprised. For those that have read the books, we have been waiting all season for this one moment to finally happen.


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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by westlbcyclone View Post
    I opened this thread knowing I was going to run into this, but here goes anyway. I must have COMPLETELY missed something in the last book and will now need to re-read it. Jon is dead?

    On a somewhat related topic, does anyone else find it odd that news organizations are writing articles about peoples' reactions to the Red Wedding on the show? Clearly these are all people that have not read the books, I'm not saying they have to to enjoy the show, so OF COURSE they are going to be surprised. For those that have read the books, we have been waiting all season for this one moment to finally happen.
    Jon's last chapter in the book ended up with him getting stabbed, a lot. They were ****** he was going to go fight the Boltons.


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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by westlbcyclone View Post
    I opened this thread knowing I was going to run into this, but here goes anyway. I must have COMPLETELY missed something in the last book and will now need to re-read it. Jon is dead?

    On a somewhat related topic, does anyone else find it odd that news organizations are writing articles about peoples' reactions to the Red Wedding on the show? Clearly these are all people that have not read the books, I'm not saying they have to to enjoy the show, so OF COURSE they are going to be surprised. For those that have read the books, we have been waiting all season for this one moment to finally happen.
    He is presumed to be dead, although it's not known for sure. With the Night Watch turning on him, I feel like they wouldn't stab him like that without making sure he was dead.

    I liked the idea of him taking on Ramsay Bolton at Winterfell in a fit of rage, but I guess maybe he has bigger things to do.



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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman38 View Post
    Jon's last chapter in the book ended up with him getting stabbed, a lot. They were ****** he was going to go fight the Boltons.
    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    He is presumed to be dead, although it's not known for sure. With the Night Watch turning on him, I feel like they wouldn't stab him like that without making sure he was dead.

    I liked the idea of him taking on Ramsay Bolton at Winterfell in a fit of rage, but I guess maybe he has bigger things to do.
    OK, I can vaugley remember this. I still, I guess, need to reread the last couple chapters of the last book anyway.


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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    Does anyone know exactly when this year Book 6 is supposed to come out?

    BIG OLD SPOILERS:

    In addition to my theory that Melisandre is going to revive Jon, and that he's Rhaegar's bastard instead of Ned's, I also think Coldhands is Benjen Stark.
    I'd be amazed if it comes out this year. I'm just hoping for 2014, but not even that optimistic.



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    Re: Games of Thrones Book Thread (With Spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie View Post
    Does anyone know exactly when this year Book 6 is supposed to come out?

    BIG OLD SPOILERS:

    In addition to my theory that Melisandre is going to revive Jon, and that he's Rhaegar's bastard instead of Ned's, I also think Coldhands is Benjen Stark.
    Cold Hands is probably not Benjen Stark. At the start of the books, Ben is still alive. In Book 5, only 2 years have passed since Ben went missing. Leaf, a Child of the forest who admits to being alive 200 years or more, says that Coldhands was killed "long ago."

    My personal theory is that he's the Night's King.



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