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    May swoon brings Royals pain | The Des Moines Register | desmoinesregister.com
    There's little dispute that, top to bottom, the Royals are in better shape than they were when Moore arrived May 30, 2006. He built what widely became regarded as baseball's best farm system, owed in part to a succession of top-of-the-draft picks that came with Kansas City's won-lost records. He upgraded scouting and development in Latin America.


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    Re: Royals

    Ned Yost needs to go. Why have a low to medium manager when you have all that young talent? Go out and get Pete Rose or Mark McGuire to manage them for heavens sake.


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    Re: Royals

    They should fire Yost right now, and fire GMDM if they aren't at 85 wins by the end of the year. The Shields trade should be considered GMDM's last stand, and if they don't reach .500 with him, I think you have to say it was a GMDM's window of opportunity is over.


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    Re: Royals

    Why it was silly for them to make the moves they did this offseason, trading for slightly above average immediate impact players when you won 70 games the previous year is dumb.



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    Re: Royals

    Some thought the Shields/Davis trade would put the Royals over the top. I'm still baffled at how short-sighted and terrible this move was for the Royals. Their once great farm system lost two of its biggest pieces and the big club still stinks. They weren't a piece or two from contention, they are four or five pieces away.

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    Re: Royals

    While I do share the same thoughts as everybody else in the fact that Ned Yost and possibly even Dayton Moore need to be fired, that is not the root of the problem. If the Royals do fire Yost, history shows that the Royals will probably win at least 13 of their next 20 when a new manager is brought in.

    However, the ultimate issue is David Glass. He does not care about the team that he owns, never has, never will. He has done nothing but hurt the franchise since he took over and it doesn't matter if they fire Yost and Moore, the Royals will not get to be a respectable team until Glass sells the team to someone who cares and wants to build a winning franchise.



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    Re: Royals

    Some quick research:

    Moustakas - .178
    Francoeur - .217
    Escobar - .249
    Hosmer - .263
    Butler - .269
    Getz - .210

    You can't have 5 guys in your lineup hitting below .270 and expect to win many games.



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    Re: Royals

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    Some quick research:

    Moustakas - .178
    Francoeur - .217
    Escobar - .249
    Hosmer - .263
    Butler - .269
    Getz - .210

    You can't have 5 guys in your lineup hitting below .270 and expect to win many games.
    The Nats and A's seem to be doing alright.

    Actually, the Royals have one of the better BAs in baseball, as a team. However, that's only part of the story (and why BA alone isn't a good metric). The Royals also strike out, a lot (and similarly, don't draw many walks), and they haven't hit for power well.



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    Re: Royals

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    Some quick research:

    Moustakas - .178
    Francoeur - .217
    Escobar - .249
    Hosmer - .263
    Butler - .269
    Getz - .210

    You can't have 5 guys in your lineup hitting below .270 and expect to win many games.
    Yup; they've changed plenty coaches in the past and still get the same results


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    Quote Originally Posted by Go2Guy View Post
    Yup; they've changed plenty coaches in the past and still get the same results
    sure you can if they are OBPing in the mid 300's and higher. None of those guys walk at all either, which is mostly the problem. The Royals are the last team to take on any sort of sabermetric principles. Its because Dayton is a "scouts, scout" and refuses to acknowledge, "those pencil neck nerds that have never played the game"

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    This was in response to you can't have a bunch of guys hitting under 270 in your lineup


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    Re: Royals

    I don't follow AL baseball much but what bad moves has Yost made vs. their young "stars" not hitting the ball?

    Pitching hasn't been a problem, scoring has. Is the manager supposed to hit for these guys?



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    No, the manager is not the one hitting for the players so it is partially their fault. It is the manager's responsibility to motivate the players and help them get their confidence, Yost has not done that. Just watching the games you can see that the players have just given up. The manager needs to let the players try to work through a slump but you can only let that go on for so long before you need to step in and send them down to AAA so they can work through the issues.

    Yost also constantly keeps starting players that he should not be. He keeps starting Moustakas and Francoeur despite the fact that they have two of the worst averages on the team. With the offense being the issue, you can't start guys like that and just hope that they snap out of it.



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    Re: Royals

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    I don't follow AL baseball much but what bad moves has Yost made vs. their young "stars" not hitting the ball?

    Pitching hasn't been a problem, scoring has. Is the manager supposed to hit for these guys?
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