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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

    This is nothing more than a marketing ploy by ESPN to gain viewers for the WNBA.



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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

    I think the most interesting thing is that Mulkey hasn't had any contact with her since she left Baylor. That's kind of low.



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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

    Quote Originally Posted by jsb View Post
    I think the most interesting thing is that Mulkey hasn't had any contact with her since she left Baylor. That's kind of low.

    Makes me wonder if there was more to that part of the story. For instance, did Mulkey try to take too much credit for making Griner into the player she is? And did Griner tell her that she made Mulkey the coach she is? Some exchange like that might make it so that they aren't going to talk much. I could see either one of them (or both) easily hacking off the other.



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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

    Quote Originally Posted by acoustimac View Post
    I'm not sure I agree. I do remember though that Bluder used to play that card against Bill while she was a Drake. I have no idea and could care less if there are any gay players (or have been) on the team. I would like to think our staff would go after the best scholar-athletes period.
    I think the "family values" is less about gay players, and more about gay coaches.

    We recruited against KSU, KU, and MU, and at the time, all those coaches were gay. Deb Patterson does her best to try and hide it behind the "christian values" thing, but everyone knows it.

    I cannot speculate how BF and team would handle the situation, but I have to think BF would have more class in the situation.



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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

    Does everyone here suffer the misconception that BF has never had a gay player on his team?


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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

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    Does everyone here suffer the misconception that BF has never had a gay player on his team?
    Impossibru!



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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

    Quote Originally Posted by klamath632 View Post
    Does everyone here suffer the misconception that BF has never had a gay player on his team?
    No. Think most are quite aware that there has been, especially after Voepel wrote her write up on "family values" a couple years back on ESPBN. But, to the extent of how "public" about it that person(s) wanted to be, I am unsure. But, we also know that they didn't come out in public media only days after being done with school and blast the coach and school either.



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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

    A pox on both their houses.


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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

    Quote Originally Posted by klamath632 View Post
    Does everyone here suffer the misconception that BF has never had a gay player on his team?
    I believe 25-50% of them are gay.

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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

    Quote Originally Posted by klamath632 View Post
    Does everyone here suffer the misconception that BF has never had a gay player on his team?
    No.

    And I might be way off base but I think ISU WBB fans would be overwhelmingly supportive of an openly lesbian player.


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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedredbird View Post
    No. Think most are quite aware that there has been, especially after Voepel wrote her write up on "family values" a couple years back on ESPBN. But, to the extent of how "public" about it that person(s) wanted to be, I am unsure. But, we also know that they didn't come out in public media only days after being done with school and blast the coach and school either.
    It was not Voepel but Kate Fagan (a former Colorado player that has no love for BF or ISU) that wrote the "family values" article. She was also the one that did the interview on ESPN of Griner. It is also ironic that the key play on Baylor's other National Championship team (Emily Neimann) transferred after the championship season because of her "lifestyle" and that it wasn't accepted at Baylor.



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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

    Quote Originally Posted by mwwbbfan View Post
    It was not Voepel but Kate Fagan (a former Colorado player that has no love for BF or ISU) that wrote the "family values" article. She was also the one that did the interview on ESPN of Griner. It is also ironic that the key play on Baylor's other National Championship team (Emily Neimann) transferred after the championship season because of her "lifestyle" and that it wasn't accepted at Baylor.
    Thanks for the correction. I think I am thinking of Voepel's write ups on KSU and MU issues over the years.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mwwbbfan View Post
    It was not Voepel but Kate Fagan (a former Colorado player that has no love for BF or ISU) that wrote the "family values" article. She was also the one that did the interview on ESPN of Griner. It is also ironic that the key play on Baylor's other National Championship team (Emily Neimann) transferred after the championship season because of her "lifestyle" and that it wasn't accepted at Baylor.
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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedredbird View Post
    Thanks for the correction. I think I am thinking of Voepel's write ups on KSU and MU issues over the years.
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    Re: Interesting article about Griner/Mulkey

    I have defended Griner often on this website. That doesn't mean that I am a fan. Griner gets to be who she is, we should all celebrate according to this article. How many people get to be who they are? I don't know too many. What often happens is people retire and then start being who they are, it gives them a chance to say what they think in public. I am horrified with the way Griner has been treated, no one should have to put up with that. That said, no one gets to be who they are, or that is very rare. Often what we are might even kill us before we have the chance to be what we aren't. Society puts pressures, some pressures are negative, but most are positive. I honestly get tired of people who think that because they are successful or have money they can be who they are, no matter what that might mean to other people.

    I hope Griner turns into someone that I can respect what she is, that is, a role model for young people. I think Baylor ought to rethink their version of "being who they are". Right now who really knows what they are.


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