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    More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    I found this interesting and figure I should post it.

    Americans head north for affordable college degrees - U.S. News



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    Re: More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    I saw this on NBC last night. Basically the same quality of education at 1/4 of the price. That tells you something about how screwed up our educational marketplace is.



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    I have never understood why we pay so much for a college education. No wonder countries are passing us in the education department.


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    Re: More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    As a recent graduate (along with the wife) that both have 20K+ in loans, this makes me cringe.



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    Re: More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    If I had to do it all over, I would probably attend a JUCO to get the remedial and introductory work out of the way.


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    Re: More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    This certainly caught my interest as my son is 15. Not sure what he is planning on for the future, but I was thinking of recommending to him that he start off at DMAC (or something similar) and live at home for the first portion of his education (more to acclimate to college life than to save money), and then make the call from there. He loves computers, so I'm not sure if a technical school would be the way to go? Anyway, if he's looking higher, I would think this would be work a look.



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    Re: More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    Quote Originally Posted by cmjh10 View Post
    I have never understood why we pay so much for a college education. No wonder countries are passing us in the education department.
    It's really not a huge mystery. State governments have been continuously cutting the amount of funding they provide to universities for like 30 years, and the difference has to be made up somewhere.



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    Re: More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    It's really not a huge mystery. State governments have been continuously cutting the amount of funding they provide to universities for like 30 years, and the difference has to be made up somewhere.
    That makes sense...


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    Re: More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    It's really not a huge mystery. State governments have been continuously cutting the amount of funding they provide to universities for like 30 years, and the difference has to be made up somewhere.

    I think another reasonable argument is that student loans & grants are easy and available, and as such Colleges and Universities continue to increase tuition. What would happen to enrollments if the loans dried up?


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    Re: More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    Quote Originally Posted by Go2Guy View Post
    I think another reasonable argument is that student loans & grants are easy and available, and as such Colleges and Universities continue to increase tuition. What would happen to enrollments if the loans dried up?
    Excellent question- the current administration has placed this process into high gear. Create tons of demand, and what happens to prices? This would make sense if the ease of loans was targeted toward certain career paths that are going to be in high demand in the US, but they aren't. It's just creating high demand for education, with random output compared to what we need.



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    Re: More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    My husband and his siblings went to college in Canada since they lived there. We have visited his alma mater recently, it is a public college, and I always think it is a dump. The facilities are not great. I suppose it might be ok for liberal arts or something, but would not be impressed with it as a STEM field school. Maybe it is the exception, not sure.



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    Re: More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    Duh, that's where their girlfriends live.



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    Re: More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    Even without state funding, I don't understand why it costs $20k/year to go to a state school. I probably need to look more into where the money actually goes. On the other hand, I probably don't.



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    Re: More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    Quote Originally Posted by cmjh10 View Post
    I have never understood why we pay so much for a college education. No wonder countries are passing us in the education department.
    The US college system is the best in the world and it's not even close.


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    Re: More U.S. kids going to Canada for college

    Quote Originally Posted by carvers4math View Post
    My husband and his siblings went to college in Canada since they lived there. We have visited his alma mater recently, it is a public college, and I always think it is a dump. The facilities are not great. I suppose it might be ok for liberal arts or something, but would not be impressed with it as a STEM field school. Maybe it is the exception, not sure.
    This comment was interesting to me. I'm curious what you mean by the facilities are not great. My hunch is a lot of it is how great the exterior buildings are, how much brick work, large windows, etc. Having worked in several academic engineering and medical facilities and visited a few others, in my experience the quality of the actual scientific equipment in the lab space doesn't correlate very much to the actual building. And then you consider even in a STEM field, a lot of the learning is still going to be with lecture and textbooks. Not true for everything, but it's generally been my observation.

    The bottom line is I think colleges are under constant pressure to look nice for their 17-18 yo prospective customers who often don't factor cost much into their decision.



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