Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 18
  1. #1
    Pro
    Points: 37,090, Level: 59
    Level completed: 37%, Points required for next Level: 760
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    CapnCy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    2,336
    Points
    37,090
    Level
    59
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 163
    Given: 118

  2. #2
    Addict
    Points: 95,584, Level: 96
    Level completed: 27%, Points required for next Level: 1,466
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    acgclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    6,708
    Points
    95,584
    Level
    96
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 279
    Given: 46

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    Good grief, I'm getting sick of parents fighting their kid's battles publicly. Also, if you're clinically depressed or suffer from mental illness, D1 or pro sports may not be a great fit for you.



  3. #3
    Pro
    Points: 57,152, Level: 74
    Level completed: 7%, Points required for next Level: 1,398
    Overall activity: 7.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    jtdoyle1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Ankeny, IA
    Posts
    2,115
    Points
    57,152
    Level
    74
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 52
    Given: 1

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    Quote Originally Posted by acgclone View Post
    Good grief, I'm getting sick of parents fighting their kid's battles publicly. Also, if you're clinically depressed or suffer from mental illness, D1 or pro sports may not be a great fit for you.
    Yeah, I'm glad none of these whiny parents and players complained about Mike Rice at Rutgers publicly. He was just a decent guy trying to coach a basketball team.

    It's funny that in the Mike Rice case that people wondered why no one stood up for themselves, but then when someone does complain publicly about a coaches behavior it's all on the players or parents.

    In your opinion, what kind of activities should people with depression or any form of mental illness be restricted too?


    Last edited by jtdoyle1; 04-16-2013 at 10:31 AM.

  4. #4
    Legend
    Points: 217,633, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    10,278
    Points
    217,633
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 230
    Given: 284

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    Mike Rice incident seems different than this. At least regarding Cougille. He seems like a whinney kid. The Rice guy was going nuts and assaulting his players. Cougill missed a meal. Cougill started crying on the bench. I mean WTF is that. Maybe he should not be playing basketball and maybe his parents should be parenting.


    Nobody but HB knows for sure. You pretty much know nothing....like Knownothing would like to say.
    Word

  5. #5
    Addict
    Points: 95,584, Level: 96
    Level completed: 27%, Points required for next Level: 1,466
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    acgclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    6,708
    Points
    95,584
    Level
    96
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 279
    Given: 46

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    Quote Originally Posted by jtdoyle1 View Post
    Yeah, I'm glad none of these whiny parents and players complained about Mike Rice at Rutgers publicly. He was just a decent guy trying to coach a basketball team.

    It's funny that in the Mike Rice case that people wondered why no one stood up for themselves, but then when someone does complain publicly about a coaches behavior it's all on the players or parents.

    In your opinion, what kind of activities should people with depression or any form of mental illness be restricted too?
    They shouldn't be restricted from any activities, but if they don't take their meds and have a breakdown during a game, there needs to be consequences or at least a way to get the person away from the team so they aren't a distraction.

    Also, there has to be a point at which if their production isn't worth the headaches, then they have to live with the consequences.

    If you aren't physically blessed enough to play high level sports, or if you're not mentally prepared to handle the rigors, then maybe it's just not meat to be. Rather than blaming others and trying your case in the media.



  6. #6
    All-Star
    Points: 24,660, Level: 48
    Level completed: 11%, Points required for next Level: 890
    Overall activity: 5.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    kentkel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Grinnell
    Posts
    1,090
    Points
    24,660
    Level
    48
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 85
    Given: 191

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    Since I don't know the situation there, I won't say that the players don't have a legitimate case. However, I do take issue with Cougill's mom. This particular quote says a lot about her and doesn't do any favors for the average person to believe her:
    “They banned me from the Facebook page,” she [Gina Cougill] said. “That was a distraction that (Wardle) blamed Brennan for because I posted that there was too much one-on-one going on. So instead of talking to me, he pulled my son in and writes that in our little 20 distractions, and he said most kids get to six and are released from the team.”

    Yo, Gina, don't use social media to criticize the coach. THAT IS a distraction & I don't blame the coach for holding your kid responsible for this idiocy. If you have an issue, organize fellow parents - in private - and then meet with the coach. Don't bring your complaints to the attention to the whole world. Start with the chain of command & then take other appropriate avenues if your initial measures have not worked.
    Like I said initially, there may be a lot of awful stuff that this coach is doing and, if true, he should be punished. BUT, it sounds like Cougill's mom seriously needs to grow up!


    Last edited by kentkel; 04-16-2013 at 10:57 AM.
    Utah Utes, Illinois Illini. The University of Pennsylvania thought about following this pattern by calling themselves the Pennsylvania Pencils. However, they were afraid their students would start chanting "We're No. 2"

  7. #7
    Legend
    Points: 289,552, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 52.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsSocialOverdriveCreated Album picturesVeteran
    IHavNoCyCash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    13,226
    Points
    289,552
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 222
    Given: 357

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    well he's used up all his eligibility, so yeah.

    Good recruiting find by Lickliter though.


    CyCash's Post of the Week

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    I bet he's a shoe in at Jimmy Johns though.

    Denver Broncos fan: 13-3 Super Bowl Losers :(
    Arsenal Fan: 4th place, FA Cup Champions! COMMUNITY SHIELD WINNERS!
    Iowa St: 28-8 Big 12 Tourney Champs!!!! Sweet 16

  8. #8
    All-Star
    Points: 13,415, Level: 35
    Level completed: 10%, Points required for next Level: 635
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    10000 Experience Points1 year registered
    Cyinthenorth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    North Iowa
    Posts
    1,283
    Points
    13,415
    Level
    35
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 32
    Given: 50

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    What a momma's boy this college grad is. I bet she is conducting his job search as well.



  9. #9
    Addict
    Points: 154,419, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 14.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    weR138's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    7,437
    Points
    154,419
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 72
    Given: 18

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    Quote Originally Posted by kentkel View Post
    Since I don't know the situation there, I won't say that the players don't have a legitimate case. However, I do take issue with Cougill's mom. This particular quote says a lot about her and doesn't do any favors for the average person to believe her:
    “They banned me from the Facebook page,” she [Gina Cougill] said. “That was a distraction that (Wardle) blamed Brennan for because I posted that there was too much one-on-one going on. So instead of talking to me, he pulled my son in and writes that in our little 20 distractions, and he said most kids get to six and are released from the team.”

    Yo, Gina, don't use social media to criticize the coach. THAT IS a distraction & I don't blame the coach for holding your kid responsible for this idiocy. If you have an issue, organize fellow parents - in private - and then meet with the coach. Don't bring your complaints to the attention to the whole world. Start with the chain of command & then take other appropriate avenues if your initial measures have not worked.
    Like I said initially, there may be a lot of awful stuff that this coach is doing and, if true, he should be punished. BUT, it sounds like Cougill's mom seriously needs to grow up!
    I'm in the Siouxer and have dealt with Gina Cougill. Not surprised by this. The term pain in the *** comes to mind.


    RIP Janice
    b. April 2012 d. April 2012
    9 posts
    May perpetual light shine upon him.

  10. #10
    Pro
    Points: 43,622, Level: 64
    Level completed: 52%, Points required for next Level: 628
    Overall activity: 38.0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    3,384
    Points
    43,622
    Level
    64
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 253
    Given: 104

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    His mom obviously took things to far and he should have been taking his meds. In saying that coaches need to make efforts to accommodate players with mental illness. Depression or anxiety when handled correctly should not be a major issue for a college athlete. Coaches also need to know their players. If a coach doesn't want players on his team with those issues, then he shouldn't have offered them a scholarship in the first place.



  11. #11
    Addict
    Points: 95,584, Level: 96
    Level completed: 27%, Points required for next Level: 1,466
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    acgclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    6,708
    Points
    95,584
    Level
    96
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 279
    Given: 46

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    Quote Originally Posted by Luth4Cy View Post
    His mom obviously took things to far and he should have been taking his meds. In saying that coaches need to make efforts to accommodate players with mental illness. Depression or anxiety when handled correctly should not be a major issue for a college athlete. Coaches also need to know their players. If a coach doesn't want players on his team with those issues, then he shouldn't have offered them a scholarship in the first place.
    How do you know that Cougill was as transparent about his illness prior to signing with UWGB? Nor do we know that BC's mental condition didn't deteriorate throughout the course of the year. There's no way to know what all the facts are, because all we've heard is one side of the story told by a helicopter mom, whose big gripe was being kicked off facebook.

    One thing is for certain, if every time a player with mental issues airs their grievances publicly via a social media campaign every time they aren't handled with kid gloves, kids with these issues will not be selected for scholarships in the future. Especially marginal players like Cougill.



  12. #12
    Pro
    Points: 43,622, Level: 64
    Level completed: 52%, Points required for next Level: 628
    Overall activity: 38.0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered25000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    3,384
    Points
    43,622
    Level
    64
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 253
    Given: 104

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    Quote Originally Posted by acgclone View Post
    How do you know that Cougill was as transparent about his illness prior to signing with UWGB? Nor do we know that BC's mental condition didn't deteriorate throughout the course of the year. There's no way to know what all the facts are, because all we've heard is one side of the story told by a helicopter mom, whose big gripe was being kicked off facebook.

    One thing is for certain, if every time a player with mental issues airs their grievances publicly via a social media campaign every time they aren't handled with kid gloves, kids with these issues will not be selected for scholarships in the future. Especially marginal players like Cougill.
    We do not necessarily know all the facts and I will be the first to admit that. I just said this because I've been a part of teams before where a coach knew a player had a legitimate mental illness and didn't do anything to help that player. We know that his mother was overly sensitive but we do not know if his coach did everything possible to prevent this.



  13. #13
    Bench Warmer
    Points: 4,434, Level: 19
    Level completed: 46%, Points required for next Level: 216
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1000 Experience Points1 year registered
    IdahoCyclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    304
    Points
    4,434
    Level
    19
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    It’s really easy to comment when you know everything that went on right?



  14. #14
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 76,189, Level: 85
    Level completed: 79%, Points required for next Level: 361
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    gogagig's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    3,563
    Points
    76,189
    Level
    85
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 54
    Given: 17

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    Quote Originally Posted by acgclone View Post
    Good grief, I'm getting sick of parents fighting their kid's battles publicly. Also, if you're clinically depressed or suffer from mental illness, D1 or pro sports may not be a great fit for you.
    Unless you play for Fred Hoiberg. He can manage players with mental illnesses quite well.



  15. #15
    Addict
    Points: 95,584, Level: 96
    Level completed: 27%, Points required for next Level: 1,466
    Overall activity: 6.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    acgclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    6,708
    Points
    95,584
    Level
    96
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 279
    Given: 46

    Re: Potential Transfer??

    Quote Originally Posted by gogagig View Post
    Unless you play for Fred Hoiberg. He can manage players with mental illnesses quite well.
    There's no doubt that Fred did a masterful job with RW. But I'm sure there was a fine line between how it played out and the situation blowing up in a big way. Thankfully we have Fred.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: Fox Sports 1
  • Iowa State vs. North Dakota State
  • August 30, 2014
  • 11:00 AM