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    Re: Monday Musings: Optimism high for hoops in 2013

    I fully expect ISU to be picked 8th again preseason, then finish in the top half of the conference. Again.

    Also, I may regret this, but as I've watched and read about Monte Morris - I have NO concerns about point guard next year. None. He's the real deal.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Optimism high for hoops in 2013

    Getting those seven wins would put ISU on its way to a 3rd straight NCAA.


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    Re: Monday Musings: Optimism high for hoops in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by bawbie View Post
    Also, I may regret this, but as I've watched and read about Monte Morris - I have NO concerns about point guard next year. None. He's the real deal.
    He is a true freshman. They all develop differently, especially at PG.

    Remember Diante's true freshman year? Yikes.

    Point is, sure, we all think he is going to be good. But to say you have "NO concerns" about PG is setting yourself up to go crazy in February.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Optimism high for hoops in 2013


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    "Totally agree on Niang. When I learned our topic for today -- wherein we look around the college hoops landscape for potential breakout All-American candidates -- he was the first player to pop into my head."

    Niang an all-american as a sophomore? i'd call that a stretch at this point. maybe if we had more returning, but he got a lot of his rebounds and points because of how we spread the floor. don't get me wrong, he is a great player and i expect all big 12, but AA?

    a LOT of his success will depend on the rest of the team. niang makes a lot of great cuts to the basket and received a lot of great passes when he did so. will they be good enough to draw some defense away from niang? hoping so.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Optimism high for hoops in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by theyork View Post
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    "Totally agree on Niang. When I learned our topic for today -- wherein we look around the college hoops landscape for potential breakout All-American candidates -- he was the first player to pop into my head."

    Niang an all-american as a sophomore? i'd call that a stretch at this point. maybe if we had more returning, but he got a lot of his rebounds and points because of how we spread the floor. don't get me wrong, he is a great player and i expect all big 12, but AA?

    a LOT of his success will depend on the rest of the team. niang makes a lot of great cuts to the basket and received a lot of great passes when he did so. will they be good enough to draw some defense away from niang? hoping so.
    The other thing to consider is that Fred and his staff will be drawing up a new offensive scheme this summer, and my guess is it will center around Niang. The biggest key for him next year is being able to stay on the flow 30+ minutes per game. Conditioning and avoiding fouls are huge keys. He'll score while he's in there, he proved that this year.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Optimism high for hoops in 2013

    I'm very optimistic as well, but know that with all the youth we'll have to temper expectations a fair amount. Guys will certainly take their lumps learning how to compete at this level. Defense wont be worse than last year IMO, we'll miss Babb but I think Houge/Morris/Thomas/SDW all bring length and athleticism that will replace any defense lost from last year's team and down low we know what we have in Ejim, Georges will be improved, and Amardi/Gibson/Edozie will be at least as effective as Booker I have to think.

    Offense is obviously the question mark, but with Fred running the show I know we'll be fine. SDW, Thomas, Georges, Morris are all pretty darn good shooters and Ejim has improved from 3 quite a bit over his time here. We'll still have tons of flexibility too though. Especially if Morris isn't ready for 25-30 minutes a game as freshman, we'll be able to run the offense through Georges in the halfcourt when Bubu is in (arguably our offense was best running through Georges).

    I'm excited for sure. Lots of young new faces, but lots of talent.


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    Re: Monday Musings: Optimism high for hoops in 2013

    If there's one thing I know, it's that as long as we have the Mayor at the helm, I can be excited for every single year no matter who we're losing. The young guys may have a learning curve, but I'm a lot more excited for the season than I was a month ago.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Optimism high for hoops in 2013

    I think if I was going to put together this team, I would plan on innovations more directed toward defense than offense. If I were coach, I would get people thinking about defense right away. It is my guess that this will be by far the deepest team that Fred has had, and the talent level will be deep. Therefore a defense which makes it hard for the other team to get the ball down the floor, which wouldn't have to be employed at all times would make sense. Also a defense that would be aggressive and be willing to foul players in order to disrupt their offense would also make sense. That way you could play quite a few players and use them effectively.

    I should add, I am very optimistic, even to the point of believing there is a possibility that we might have something better here, or at least as good as the last two years. I don't care about polls.


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    Re: Monday Musings: Optimism high for hoops in 2013

    Definitely agree about the Big 12 next year. If Bill Self wasn't the coach of KU, I'd argue there would be ZERO Big 12 teams ranked in the Top 25 when the season starts. I'd guess that's never happened before.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Optimism high for hoops in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    He is a true freshman. They all develop differently, especially at PG.

    Remember Diante's true freshman year? Yikes.

    Point is, sure, we all think he is going to be good. But to say you have "NO concerns" about PG is setting yourself up to go crazy in February.
    But unlike Diante, Monte has a jump shot.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Optimism high for hoops in 2013

    Ever notice we go into every season under Fred Hoiberg concerened about the Point guard. Then he turns Diante from a reletivly decent player into and NBA type player. He does the Royce White Project. Korie was played pretty decent. I fully expect Melvin Ejim to be our point guard next year.


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    Re: Monday Musings: Optimism high for hoops in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by bawbie View Post
    I fully expect ISU to be picked 8th again preseason, then finish in the top half of the conference. Again.

    Also, I may regret this, but as I've watched and read about Monte Morris - I have NO concerns about point guard next year. None. He's the real deal.
    I don't have a talent concern, just an experience concern. Only moderate though. He and Matt will have growing pains but so did the 5th year senior transfers.



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    Re: Monday Musings: Optimism high for hoops in 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by theyork View Post
    from that:
    "Totally agree on Niang. When I learned our topic for today -- wherein we look around the college hoops landscape for potential breakout All-American candidates -- he was the first player to pop into my head."

    Niang an all-american as a sophomore? i'd call that a stretch at this point. maybe if we had more returning, but he got a lot of his rebounds and points because of how we spread the floor. don't get me wrong, he is a great player and i expect all big 12, but AA?

    a LOT of his success will depend on the rest of the team. niang makes a lot of great cuts to the basket and received a lot of great passes when he did so. will they be good enough to draw some defense away from niang? hoping so.
    That's heady stuff there. But when is the last time that a team with an All-American was a bad team? If Niang is going to make the list next season, then ISU is going to be a top-three Big 12 team and league title contender.


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