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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

    Hey Chris, I think you pulled some of the wrong scholarship numbers off that chart, using men's scholarship numbers for women's sports (gymnastics, volleyball).



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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

    Thanks, Chris! Quick thoughts:
    1. I knew the role Fred played. That's impressive.
    2. I had no idea that volleyball only has 4.5 scholarships.

    I disagree with Rick Brown, in that I don't see the point in Leath and Pollard sitting down to "answer questions until every last one is answered." This isn't a rogue program issue. It's bad reporting, and a coach that solved the problem the second he learned of it.


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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

    Quote Originally Posted by Trice View Post
    Hey Chris, I think you pulled some of the wrong scholarship numbers off that chart, using men's scholarship numbers for women's sports (gymnastics, volleyball).
    Thanks. You are right. Fixing that now.



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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

    Thanks for the detailed report on this Chris. Unlike some media outlets "cough cough eastern Iowa media cough cough" who make it sound like ISU did something horrendously bad and make it seem the NCAA will lay a huge penalty for ISU athletics.



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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    2. I had no idea that volleyball only has 4.5 scholarships.
    Volleyball actually gets 12. That was my bad. Men's volleyball gets 4.5



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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    Volleyball actually gets 12. That was my bad. Men's volleyball gets 4.5
    we have mens volleyball?!?!?!



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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

    Quote Originally Posted by Daserop View Post
    we have mens volleyball?!?!?!
    Ha. No. But other schools do. Ones that do have the sport get 4.5 scholarships per team for it.



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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Thanks, Chris! Quick thoughts:
    1. I knew the role Fred played. That's impressive.
    2. I had no idea that volleyball only has 4.5 scholarships.

    I disagree with Rick Brown, in that I don't see the point in Leath and Pollard sitting down to "answer questions until every last one is answered." This isn't a rogue program issue. It's bad reporting, and a coach that solved the problem the second he learned of it.
    I agree with you. If you actually read the report, it answers A LOT of questions that you could possibly come up with. If your only questions were about the transparency of the entire situation...



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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

    [QUOTE=ChrisMWilliams;3420112]Ha. No. But other schools do. Ones that do have the sport get 4.5 scholarships per team for it.[/QUOTE

    I don't want to get off topic, but how can you have half a scholarship?



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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    Ha. No. But other schools do. Ones that do have the sport get 4.5 scholarships per team for it.[/QUOTE

    I don't want to get off topic, but how can you have half a scholarship?
    I THINK that works by splitting scholarships. Like in golf as an example - it is pretty rare for one kid to have a full-ride. Works that way in wrestling too. So one kid gets half a scholarship, another gets a third or whatever. Make sense?



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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

    [QUOTE=Daserop;3420114]
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    Ha. No. But other schools do. Ones that do have the sport get 4.5 scholarships per team for it.[/QUOTE

    I don't want to get off topic, but how can you have half a scholarship?
    The scholarship is based on the total cost of attendance at the university. It it costs 50K for a full scholarship, the coach could give someone 25K. Men's volleyball isn't a headcount sport so you can give straight up amount of money or % of a total cost of attendance.



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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

    After reading about this, my question is: how much time do coaches have to spend on documenting these things? It doesn't seem that it would be insignificant if you have to document phone calls when you didn't even reach the kid. All this stuff seems rather silly.



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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

    Thanks for some balanced information Chris.

    The Rag wants transparency for everyone except themselves when they layoff a bunch of folks. They never address that the institution is limited by what the NCAA allows as well on that.



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    Re: BLOG: Musings on Iowa State's NCAA issues, links too

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Thanks, Chris! Quick thoughts:
    1. I knew the role Fred played. That's impressive.
    2. I had no idea that volleyball only has 4.5 scholarships.

    I disagree with Rick Brown, in that I don't see the point in Leath and Pollard sitting down to "answer questions until every last one is answered." This isn't a rogue program issue. It's bad reporting, and a coach that solved the problem the second he learned of it.
    Yeah, that is the media being the media. They demand answers, whether there are any real questions or not.



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