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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    Quote Originally Posted by theantiAIRBHG View Post
    This was going to be my inquiry. I'm assuming if its from Google or Bing its fair game?
    No, google and bing pop up copyrighted images. I know Wikipedia is fair game, but beyond that it is just how that site or person wants to do it. There doesn't have to be a copyright symbol, I don't think there even has to be a note saying the image is copyrighted as long as they have it in their "site legal".



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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    Quote Originally Posted by mtowncyclone13 View Post
    google went to court and successfully defended that a hosting site/message board could not be held liable for what members posted.
    Got a link to this?



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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    Basically any internet forum that has ever existed is probably at risk of copyright claims from something at some point I'm guess.
    this gives me an idea....






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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    Quote Originally Posted by jaretac View Post
    No, google and bing pop up copyrighted images. I know Wikipedia is fair game, but beyond that it is just how that site or person wants to do it. There doesn't have to be a copyright symbol, I don't think there even has to be a note saying the image is copyrighted as long as they have it in their "site legal".
    Talk about grey areas.



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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    Quote Originally Posted by mtowncyclone13 View Post
    google went to court and successfully defended that a hosting site/message board could not be held liable for what members posted.
    Section 230 of the DMCA (a.k.a. "Safe Harbors"): US Internet Law/Section 230 - Wikibooks, open books for an open world

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    U.S. Federal law provides that "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." 47 U.S.C. 230(c)(1), and that "[n]o cause of action may be brought and no liability may be imposed under any State or local law that is inconsistent with this section." id. 230(e)(3)).
    IANAL, but I thought as long as CF is responsive to takedown requests they would be protected by section 230. As posters we shouldn't try to get CF flooded with such requests, but given how many images that are posted to CF don't have easily discernable copyright information I don't know what reasonable requirements should be in place. From a practical point of view, once something is available on the public web there is no way to control its use.


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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    I'm thinking about putting a ton of my own copyrighted images on the internet and then just sue people till I can retire.



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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    Got a link to this?
    I am vaguely aware of a google case where they were not liable for defamatory comments (I think it was blogging) but not sure about one on copyrights on message boards.



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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    If I can't post funny pictures for the first time ever, my posts per day is going to decrease dramatically, and that can not happen.
    fixed



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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    Quote Originally Posted by mtowncyclone13 View Post
    google went to court and successfully defended that a hosting site/message board could not be held liable for what members posted.
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    Got a link to this?
    This case perhaps? Viacom International Inc. v. YouTube, Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Viacock International, Inc. v. YouTube, Inc., No. 07 Civ. 2103, is a U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York case in which Viacock sued YouTube, a video-sharing site owned by Google, alleging that YouTube had engaged in "brazen" and "massive" copyright infringement by allowing users to upload and view hundreds of thousands of videos owned by Viacock without permission. A motion for summary judgement seeking dismissal was filed by Google and was granted in 2010 on the grounds that the Digital Millennium Copyright Act's "safe harbor" provisions shielded Google from Viacock’s copyright infringement claims. However, on appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, it was overturned in part in 2012, and a trial in the case is pending.
    This one is still under appeal. The Wikipedia article makes it sound that the hang-up is based on how much infringement was known by the YouTube employees. Safe Harbor protection requires (I think) that the provider (YouTube, or CF in our case) not be aware of the infringement until the copyright holder makes them aware of it. Apparently there were emails between YouTube employees talking about infringement that was not being dealt with, and this opens YouTube to potential liability.


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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    I'm thinking about putting a ton of my own copyrighted images on the internet and then just sue people till I can retire.
    insert "all your pics are belong to 3TrueFans".jpeg


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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycl1 View Post
    insert "all your pics are belong to 3TrueFans".jpeg
    That's copyrighted. Be careful..



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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    Quote Originally Posted by theantiAIRBHG View Post
    Talk about grey areas.
    No doubt. When you upload a photo to Wikipedia you surrender your rights and the photo is put in public domain. On the flip side, when you upload your photos to panoramio, they are listed as retaining your full rights. So I have some images on Wikipedia and panoramio (Google Earth). Which is it? Is it free only if you take it from Wikipedia site?


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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    Screenshot with my iphone, crop down a bit (leaving a bit of screen showing), post...that's my photo.

    In all seriousness, this is pretty interesting. This of the Dos Equis guy's photo that has been meme'd beyond belief...they could make a ton of bucks if they hunted down every site that used it.



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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    I assume either the poster or Cyclone Fanatic would have to try and claim it as original content...?



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    Re: VERY IMPORTANT: All CF users please read

    Getty images is a fairly well-known copyright troll, that tries to extort money from people hoping they will just give in to their tactics.

    But really we really need serious reform of all of our intellectual property laws, from copyright (it shouldnt be the perpetual license it is today, for one, and it needs to adapt to the internet) to patents (which have gone completely idiotic in the tech world).



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