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    Evaluating position groups this year vs. last year

    Offense-

    QB- I see a good chance for this group to be improved over last year. Granted, we are young, but I think both Richardson and Rohach are more accurate passers than Jantz and Barnett were. Give me a guy that can complete passes anyday over someone that's only good at scrambling and running.

    RB- I also think this group will be better than last year. Yes, we probably won't have Shontrelle, but another year under James White, Jeff Woody, and Devondrick Nealy's belts will all make them better, and I think Wimberly will help us a lot too. And the Pistol will also help the run game IMO.

    WR- This group, IMO, will be about the same as last year. Yes, we are young and inexperienced, but I think these young guys also will bring some added size to this group that could offset their lack of experience. So although it hurts to lose some of the guys from last year, I see big potential from Bundrage, Daley, Quan West, Ecby, PJ Harris, etc.

    TE- This could really be a special group. Anytime you can put Brun and Bibbs on the field together, that spells trouble for the opposition IMO.

    OL- This is a mystery to me. Someone with more knowledge of the O-line might be able to help me here. I think it could be improved just based on the fact we have some guys returning and hopefully Dika is back too.... along with a new and hopefully improved OL coach too. If this group can be improved over last year, I think the offense can put up some points.


    Defense-

    DE- I don't see much improvement here. Willie Scott and David Irving don't get me all that excited. Neither guy has shown much in terms of getting pressure on the QB. Scott is undersized, and Irving seems slow off the ball and still has a lot to learn. Hopefully Cory Morrissey and Nick Kron are improved this year?

    DT- Big drop off here from last year IMO. McDonough and Laing were beasts. Going into spring, we have a RS freshmen (Bevins) and Jensen listed as starters. I'm sorry, but that is a big drop off folks. Nothing against Bevins because I think he could end up being an All Big 12 performer before he's done here, but he's just so young right now. Krick and Aka also have no experience really either. Walter Woods is ok, but hasn't shown much impact.

    LB- As big of a drop off as DT or more IMO. Lose 2 of the best ISU LBs ever and replace them with mostly inexperienced youngsters. Rhoads said last week that this is probably our thinnest group on the team right now. Kinda scary.

    Safety- This actually could be the strongest position group on the team. Led by Washington and Broomfield, they will be very solid. Mutcherson sounds like he's a stud as well. Cliff Stokes has also been moved here, and he played quite a bit last year at CB for us, so he's experienced as well.

    CB- I also think this group could be improved over last year as well. Jansen Watson is really good and guys like Sam Richarson, Damien Lawry, and Charlie Rodgers all look really good too IMO.


    I think it's obvious from this assessment that our success could very well depend on our front 7 on defense, the OL, the young WR's, and of course the QB, which is always the most important every year. I feel good about our RB's, TE's, Safeties, and Cornerbacks.

    I think we'll do ok against the pass, as long as the opposing QB doesn't have all day to throw it. I worry about our rush defense immensely though. Tulsa ran all over us and were more physical, and that was with McDonough and Laing in there. We will be worse up front this year IMO. That's just scary to even think about.

    I think 2014 could be a good year, but I see next year as kinda rough going for the defense especially. Thoughts?



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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

    How can you evaluate anything when you aren't a part of it. You're a fan, not a coach.



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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

    Quote Originally Posted by CYphyllis View Post
    How can you evaluate anything when you aren't a part of it. You're a fan, not a coach.
    ZZZZZZ



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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

    Quote Originally Posted by CYphyllis View Post
    How can you evaluate anything when you aren't a part of it. You're a fan, not a coach.
    Uhhhh.... maybe because that's what fans do? Obviously none of us are on the coaching staffs of any of ISU's athletic programs, but we still find a way to voice our OPINIONS on them, right? That's kinda the whole point of being a fan and coming on sites like this. We get to argue and converse about our opinions on the various ISU athletic teams.

    If it's not fun for you, then go away.



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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

    Year 5 of coach Rhoads, except for maybe D-line and linebacker, I think other groups will be much improved. Even a group like wide receiver that lost a lot is gaining with more athletic youngsters.



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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    Uhhhh.... maybe because that's what fans do? Obviously none of us are on the coaching staffs of any of ISU's athletic programs, but we still find a way to voice our OPINIONS on them, right? That's kinda the whole point of being a fan and coming on sites like this. We get to argue and converse about our opinions on the various ISU athletic teams.

    If it's not fun for you, then go away.
    Then call it what it is, blind speculation. Saying it's an evaluation is just false advertising.



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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

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    Then call it what it is, blind speculation. Saying it's an evaluation is just false advertising.



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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

    Quote Originally Posted by Luth4Cy View Post
    Year 5 of coach Rhoads, except for maybe D-line and linebacker, I think other groups will be much improved. Even a group like wide receiver that lost a lot is gaining with more athletic youngsters.
    I agree with that. The WR group has the potential to be improved next year depending on the young guns. I think there is a LOT of talent in Bundrage, Quan West, Daley, Ecby, and PJ Harris. It's just how long it takes for them to get up to speed learning the offense, and adjusting to the speed and athleticism of the college game.



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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

    Quote Originally Posted by CYphyllis View Post
    Then call it what it is, blind speculation. Saying it's an evaluation is just false advertising.
    It's not blind speculation for the guys that are returning from last year. I agree it is blind speculation on guys like Colin Bevins, because we've never seen him lineup and play DT in the Big 12 before.

    But it's still fun to take a look at.... at least for some of us.

    I guess next time I'll try to remember to clarify on my post that I'm just a stupid fan that doesn't know anything before I start my post. Would that make you happier? Do you do that every single time you post an opinion on here regarding Cyclone athletics? Because you don't know jack squat either.



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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

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    You seem to be begging for my attention. Do you need something?



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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

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    You seem to be begging for my attention. Do you need something?
    No, they just want you to go away, just like everyone else does. You don't have to waste your time on these threads if they annoy you. You do realize that, right?



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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

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    You seem to be begging for my attention. Do you need something?
    I'm good, need a tissue or are you done crying?



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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

    Alright new rule. You can't talk about anything related to a specific sport. Also, if there's a coaching search and your name isn't Jamie Pollard, we don't want to hear anything out of you.


    I'm on Twitter too: Tre4ISU

    Or so I have read.

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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

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    I'm good, need a tissue or are you done crying?
    Crying? If this how you go about your e-trash talking, needless to say, it needs some work.



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    Re: Evaluatiing position groups this year vs. last year

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    Crying? If this how you go about your e-trash talking, needless to say, it needs some work.
    I'm not trashtalking at all, it seems like talking about football is a perfectly fine way to spend an offseason. There's some beautiful offtopic threads if those interest you more though.



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