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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    CJL resigned or re-signed?



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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    Fred paid more than CPR? Must be a bball school.


    CFH HMagic bball season next year.
    Let my Fred's Four Horsemen ride: Georges, Hogue, Nader, and McKay.

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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Fred paid more than CPR? Must be a bball school.
    I thought they were both on 10 year 20m deals



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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    "After two straight trips to the Big Dance, there was no way that Iowa State was going to let this guy go. None. Notta. Zip."

    Some people failed to grasp this, which saddens me. I hoped our fan base was more intelligent. Fred being an investment was spot on, Chris.



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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    "After two straight trips to the Big Dance, there was no way that Iowa State was going to let this guy go. None. Notta. Zip."

    Some people failed to grasp this, which saddens me. I hoped our fan base was more intelligent. Fred being an investment was spot on, Chris.
    Who failed to grasp it? Was there anybody who didn't think we should make every reasonable effort to keep him?

    The only thing I would challenge is this narrative that Fred is "staying." To say he's "staying" implies that he was close to "leaving" and frankly I'm skeptical that he was ever close to leaving. I'm sure he took the phone call and listened, as most coaches would. But that doesn't mean much.

    That's just my hunch obviously and I could be wrong.



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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    Chris, Any idea if the buy-out was raised? I know they typically don't stop a coach from moving but they can soften the blow a bit when you lose a coach.



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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    Do you mean"nada?" I'm unfamiliar with"notta."

    Editing notwithstanding, spot-on analysis. Good article.



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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    Quote Originally Posted by klamath632 View Post
    Do you mean"nada?" I'm unfamiliar with"notta."

    Editing notwithstanding, spot-on analysis. Good article.
    Ha. I actually think that they both "work." I got "notta" from Urban Dictionary. You might be onto something though. I maybe should change it cuz "nada" is probably understood by more people.



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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    I'm sorry, but I don't agree with the theory that ISU's attendance has skyrocketed due to Rhoads/Hoiberg's success. That is the direct result of Pres. Geoffrey working diligently with the Director of Admissions over the last 10 years to actively recruit targeted areas of the country.



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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    Quote Originally Posted by intrepid27 View Post
    Chris, Any idea if the buy-out was raised? I know they typically don't stop a coach from moving but they can soften the blow a bit when you lose a coach.
    I do not know those specifics at this time...



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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    To the academia people out there moaning about coaching salaries today, just stop. If it weren’t for athletics, Iowa State’s enrollment (or any school out there with a semi-successful athletic department for that matter) would shrink like a cotton shirt in hot water and so would your salary. There is nothing more nauseating to me than the academia folks coming out of the woodworks every time that a coach gets a raise in this state. When tens of thousands of fans start paying to watch you teach biology, then talk to me.

    Chris, your comments here are every bit the uninformed, knee-jerk reaction that you're accusing academics of making. What you're saying is just wrong, on many levels. If you want to engage that debate, I'm happy to do so. But you're doing a disservice to the majority of ISU faculty and staff who are among the hardest of die-hards.



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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    Made a call. Doesn't sound like the contract has been released yet. No clue on buyout at this time.



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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffreyisu View Post
    I'm sorry, but I don't agree with the theory that ISU's attendance has skyrocketed due to Rhoads/Hoiberg's success. That is the direct result of Pres. Geoffrey working diligently with the Director of Admissions over the last 10 years to actively recruit targeted areas of the country.
    Like I wrote, it doesn't have everything to do with it. But you can't say that it doesn't have anything to do with it either.

    But yes, I agree. President Geoffrey was amazing. When I was working in Shenandoah, I went to one of his speeches about what Iowa State's engineering department was doing. Had a lot to do with agriculture. I'm not sure how anybody who would watch a presentation like that couldn't be jacked up to go there. Some great things.



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    Re: BLOG: Props to Pollard on Hoiberg deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Trice View Post
    To the academia people out there moaning about coaching salaries today, just stop. If it weren’t for athletics, Iowa State’s enrollment (or any school out there with a semi-successful athletic department for that matter) would shrink like a cotton shirt in hot water and so would your salary. There is nothing more nauseating to me than the academia folks coming out of the woodworks every time that a coach gets a raise in this state. When tens of thousands of fans start paying to watch you teach biology, then talk to me.

    Chris, your comments here are every bit the uninformed, knee-jerk reaction that you're accusing academics of making. What you're saying is just wrong, on many levels. If you want to engage that debate, I'm happy to do so. But you're doing a disservice to the majority of ISU faculty and staff who are among the hardest of die-hards.
    I fully admit that writing that was probably a bit of a knee-jerk reaction. That's why I'm only a "hack blogger."

    The fact of the matter is that athletics and academics need each other. I think we can agree on that. I might go do a little editing to soften up that stance because you are right. I was generalizing all into a tiny category of people which is wrong. Just like I get upset when people accuse our message board being "all idiots," which simply isn't the case.

    My bad on that and thank you for calling me out on it.



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