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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    Good read, thanks CW


    The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.

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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    He will stay, no worries.


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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    The only part I disagree with is the salary. JP could absolutely match whatever Minnesota is offering Fred. It's not like Minnesota is going to be offering Fred 4 million a year.

    If salary is the reason why Fred leaves for any college job, JP needs to find another school to work at.



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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    The only part I disagree with is the salary. JP could absolutely match whatever Minnesota is offering Fred. It's not like Minnesota is going to be offering Fred 4 million a year.

    If salary is the reason why Fred leaves for any college job, JP needs to find another school to work at.
    Could/would are different words though...

    Sure...Maybe Iowa State could match Minnesota. But depending on what Minnesota offers, I'm not sure that Iowa State would.

    Minnesota knows about the whole Hoiberg/Iowa State thing. They aren't going to insult him with a low-ball offer here. If they come at Hoiberg, a lot of cash will be on the line.



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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    Chris, you would know more about what coaches think about ISU vs Minn, but I can say, living here my whole life, outside of my time at ISU, that Minnesota really doesn't have near the support Iowa State does.

    This is truly a pro town....which you know being an unfortunate Vikes fan like me, and the U hasn't had support in decades. It has a MASSIVE alum base, a 3.5 million plus metro area, yet can't get it done. Maybe Norwood will change that, but he has years of "I don't care" attitude from the Alums and metro area to change.

    When I bring down Gopher fans to ISU events they honestly can't believe the difference.
    Again, not what coaches think, but that's how I see it. Could Minnesota be great? Absolutely!



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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    All the interest/info seems to be one sided at the moment...



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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    Also Chris, has the new Big 12 tv deal hit the budget yet?



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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    Could/would are different words though...

    Sure...Maybe Iowa State could match Minnesota. But depending on what Minnesota offers, I'm not sure that Iowa State would.

    Minnesota knows about the whole Hoiberg/Iowa State thing. They aren't going to insult him with a low-ball offer here. If they come at Hoiberg, a lot of cash will be on the line.
    Iowa State sure as hell better match what Minnesota offers. Pollard would be signing his own resignation letter if he can't say that he offered Hoiberg the same amount of money that it took to get him to Minnesota.

    This would be worse than Larry getting fired. It would be worse than Tim taking the Bulls job. I think it could be worse than Rhoads leaving. It would take all of the air out of the athletic department as a whole. I don't think Iowa State fans could take one of their own leaving them right when things started to look good. I think we'd have a hard enough time if he took the stupid Timberwolves job. But this one? And I know that he is loved around here, but Iowa State would turn on him pretty fast.



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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by jsb View Post
    Iowa State sure as hell better match what Minnesota offers. Pollard would be signing his own resignation letter if he can't say that he offered Hoiberg the same amount of money that it took to get him to Minnesota.

    This would be worse than Larry getting fired. It would be worse than Tim taking the Bulls job. I think it could be worse than Rhoads leaving. It would take all of the air out of the athletic department as a whole. I don't think Iowa State fans could take one of their own leaving them right when things started to look good. I think we'd have a hard enough time if he took the stupid Timberwolves job. But this one? And I know that he is loved around here, but Iowa State would turn on him pretty fast.
    Exactly. Money should not be an object when it comes to keeping Fred here. If he leaves for Minnesota because of money, you might as well cancel the basketball program. It would be the saddest, most depressing day in Iowa State history and there have already been a lot of sad and depressing days.



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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    the smoke is more the smokescreen kind of smoke than the no smoke without fire kind of smoke



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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    Exactly. Money should not be an object when it comes to keeping Fred here. If he leaves for Minnesota because of money, you might as well cancel the basketball program. It would be the saddest, most depressing day in Iowa State history and there have already been a lot of sad and depressing days.
    Agreed. The passion for ISU basketball would not leak. It would pop. Pretty sure this is obvious to JP



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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    Hoiberg can become legendary here. No one can offer him enough money to buy his "story." Growing up near Hilton, playing for Ames High, becoming "The Mayor" as a player, and now, turning the program around in almost no time. His legend will only grow over time. You can't buy that.

    And, he gets to raise his family in his home town.



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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedlineSi View Post
    Chris, you would know more about what coaches think about ISU vs Minn, but I can say, living here my whole life, outside of my time at ISU, that Minnesota really doesn't have near the support Iowa State does.

    This is truly a pro town....which you know being an unfortunate Vikes fan like me, and the U hasn't had support in decades. It has a MASSIVE alum base, a 3.5 million plus metro area, yet can't get it done. Maybe Norwood will change that, but he has years of "I don't care" attitude from the Alums and metro area to change.

    When I bring down Gopher fans to ISU events they honestly can't believe the difference.
    Again, not what coaches think, but that's how I see it. Could Minnesota be great? Absolutely!
    You have me beat, I have only lived here 36 years. The Gophers should be great but just aren't. I don't see that changing in any of their sports. The interest and spirit for Gopher hoops is nothing like it was few decades ago. They dinked around playing in that damn dome and killed any chance of reviving college football. They finally built a beautiful new stadium but it is too late. They have hung onto the past with that dump arena for basketball and havenít even put up a practice facility. The admin here hasbeen incompetent and the fans only care about hockey. Heck, last week when the Gophers played inthe NCAA at the same time as the hockey team the sports bars TVs were on hockey. The U is a sports graveyard except for hockey and they do love themselves some hockey.



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    Re: BLOG: Hoiberg/Minnesota, will he stay or go?

    How is it a better job. The Barn is dated, they have no practice facality, and Tubby didnt have much access to private jets. They dont have great fan support. They also have a histrory of running coaches out of town. He can bring the talent in Minn to Ames.


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