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    Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

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    Iowa State linebacker Alvin Bowen was named second-team, all-Big 12 Conference by the league’s coaches.

    Bowen who led the Cyclones with 94 tackles, also earned second-team honors last season.


    Receiver Todd Blythe and defensive linemen Bryce Braaksma and Athyba Rubin received honorable mention honors.

    Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel was the offensive player of the year. Colorado linebacker Jordon Dizon was the top defensive player. Kansas’ Mark Mangino was the coach of the year.



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    Re: Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

    Missouri received more major individual awards this season (3) than it had in the combined previous 11 years of conference play.
    Nice to see Rubin get HM, too bad he couldn't have snuck on the 2nd team he was tearing things up in the last half of the season.



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    Re: Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

    It is clear to see from the list that we lacked the talent. The fewest players on the whole list and we were only close to Baylor (4 to their 6).


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    Re: Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

    Very happy to see Bryce make HM. What a great kid and story.



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    Re: Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

    Quote Originally Posted by cloneu View Post
    It is clear to see from the list that we lacked the talent. The fewest players on the whole list and we were only close to Baylor (4 to their 6).
    Well, I'm not sure how college works but in high school honorable mention awards are basically players that your own coach nominated but didn't get enough votes from the other coaches to make 2nd team or 1st team. SO, if it is the same/similar the fact that Baylor had 6 could just mean that Morriss nominated 2 more of his own kids than Gene did. It is not necessarily a reflection of talent.

    Do you think KState has more talent than Texas? (14 to 13?)



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    Re: Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

    Texas had more talent but the North teams voted for KState players.


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    Re: Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

    Quote Originally Posted by ArathornClone View Post
    Do you think KState has more talent than Texas? (14 to 13?)


    Ummm ... I get your point, but that was a bad two teams to pick. Lately the texans has been the Wildcat's *****.


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    Re: Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

    Quote Originally Posted by ArathornClone View Post
    Well, I'm not sure how college works but in high school honorable mention awards are basically players that your own coach nominated but didn't get enough votes from the other coaches to make 2nd team or 1st team. SO, if it is the same/similar the fact that Baylor had 6 could just mean that Morriss nominated 2 more of his own kids than Gene did. It is not necessarily a reflection of talent.

    Do you think KState has more talent than Texas? (14 to 13?)
    I am not sure how the voting works for HM, but if it is done how you say I still think it is pretty bad that the coach would only think that 4 players were good enough to get nominated.

    On another note I see that we are tied for 5th in number of major awards with 6 over its 12 year history, not bad. I believe this list includes

    1996 Troy Davis Conference Player of the Year
    1998 Jesse Bechom Defensive Newcomer of the Year
    2001 Seneca Wallace Offensive Newcomer of the Year
    2003 Jason Berryman Defensive Newcomer of the Year
    2004 Tim Dobbins Defensive Newcomer of the Year
    and I assume
    2004 Todd Blythe Offensive Freshman of the Year

    Oklahoma has won the most major awards in the 12-year history of the Big 12 with 19. Texas is next with 18 winners followed by Kansas State (13), Nebraska (9), Colorado (6), Iowa State (6), Kansas (6), Missouri (5), and Texas Tech (5).


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    Re: Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

    Bowen's 1st in my book...but I hope to see a lot more Cyclones on that list and in the NFL after Chizik's teaching.


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    Re: Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

    Did I miss something? I didn't see Colt McCoy or the Tech quarterback even receiving Honorable mention. Talk about a tough group.



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    Re: Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormin View Post
    Did I miss something? I didn't see Colt McCoy or the Tech quarterback even receiving Honorable mention. Talk about a tough group.
    Harrell is 2nd team QB. You're right about McCoy not even receiving HM.



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    Re: Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

    And we'll have that damn Daniels fellow to deal with again next year too.

    At least we got a few on the list.



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    Re: Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    And we'll have that damn Daniels fellow to deal with again next year too.

    At least we got a few on the list.
    Does anyone think he'll go pro? Believe me, I'm not saying he will, this is just a question I've been pondering for a while now. All I hear on inside the NFL, sports radio, pre-game shows, is how bad the quarterback play is in the NFL outside of a handful of teams. So, as the draft sets up, it sounds like a lot of teams might be looking to make a move in this department. I don't know if he's ready yet, but, it sounds like this could be the year to be a top prospect QB in the draft.

    Sorry, don't mean to derail the thread either.



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    Re: Bowen 2nd Team BIG XII

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan94 View Post
    Does anyone think he'll go pro? Believe me, I'm not saying he will, this is just a question I've been pondering for a while now. All I hear on inside the NFL, sports radio, pre-game shows, is how bad the quarterback play is in the NFL outside of a handful of teams. So, as the draft sets up, it sounds like a lot of teams might be looking to make a move in this department. I don't know if he's ready yet, but, it sounds like this could be the year to be a top prospect QB in the draft.

    Sorry, don't mean to derail the thread either.
    I think he will go to the work outs and decide then..i think you can do that.. but if he is impressing scouts i dont see why he wouldnt...


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