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    Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    Now that I've already posted a poll on which CFH coached bball team was your favorite and we've got that hashed out, I now pose the question of which bball team of the last two years had the best team? The following are a few stats on each team to help you in your analysis:

    2011-2012 Team
    Stars: Royce White, Scott Christopherson, Chris Allen, Chris Babb, Melvin Ejim
    Season Record: 23-11
    Conference Record: 12-6
    Place in Conference: Tied for third
    Conference Tourney: Ousted second round by Texas (bye first round)
    NCAA Tournament: Beat defending Champion UConn in first round, then lost to Kentucky in second
    NCAA Tournament Seed: 8
    End of Regular Season RPI: 33
    Notable Wins: Iowa (Home), Kansas (Home), Baylor (Home), K-State (Home and Away), Texas (Home), UConn (NCAA Tourney)
    Bad Loses: Drake (Away), UNI (Home), Texas (Big 12 Tourney)

    2012-2013 Team
    Stars:
    Will Clyburn, Korie Lucious, Georges Niang, Melvin Ejim, Chris Babb, Tyrus McGee
    Season Record: 23-12
    Conference Record: 11-7
    Place in Conference: Tied for fourth
    Conference Tourney: Ousted 3rd round by Kansas, beat Oklahoma second round (bye first round)
    NCAA Tournament: Beat Notre Dame first round, then lost to Ohio State in second round
    NCAA Tournament Seed: 10
    End of Regular Season RPI: 45
    Notable Wins: Kansas State (Home), Oklahoma State (Home), Baylor (Road), Florida Gulf Coast (Home), Oklahoma (Home and Conf Tourney), Notre Dame (NCAA Tourney)
    Bad Loses: Iowa (Away), Texas Tech (Away), Texas (Away)


    As you can see on paper, the two teams are very comparable.


    Last edited by Triggermv; 03-28-2013 at 01:02 PM.

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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    What's interesting to me is comparing them in the close games. Last years team had a few lucky breaks (Thug Life's banked in buzzer beater) while having a real finisher like Royce in the KSU game.

    This years team literally had no lucky breaks. But played in a weaker Big 12. It's really a toss up for me.

    Edit: I went with last years though simply because we had a player who provided the biggest mismatch I've ever watched (Royce). And our ability to finish games (whether lucky or not) while staying away from bad losses in Big 12 play, until Texas in the tourney.


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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Triggermv View Post
    Now that I've already posted a poll on which CFH coached bball team was your favorite and we've got that hashed out, I now pose the question of which bball team of the last two years had the best team? The following are a few stats on each team to help you in your analysis:

    2011-2012 Team
    Stars: Royce White, Scott Christopherson, Chris Allen, Chris Babb, Melvin Ejim
    Regular Season Record: 23-11
    Conference Record: 12-6
    Place in Conference: Tied for third
    Conference Tourney: Ousted second round by Texas (bye first round)
    NCAA Tournament: Beat defending Champion UConn in first round, then lost to Kentucky in second
    End of Regular Season RPI: 33
    Notable Wins: Iowa (Home), Kansas (Home), Baylor (Home), K-State (Home and Away), Texas (Home), Notre Dame (NCAA Tourney)
    Bad Loses: Drake (Away), UNI (Home), Texas (Big 12 Tourney)

    2012-2013 Team
    Stars:
    Will Clyburn, Korie Lucious, Georges Niang, Melvin Ejim, Chris Babb, Tyrus McGee
    Regular Season Record: 23-12
    Conference Record: 11-7
    Place in Conference: Tied for fourth
    Conference Tourney: Ousted 3rd round by Kansas, beat Oklahoma second round (bye first round)
    NCAA Tournament: Beat Notre Dame first round, then lost to Ohio State in second round
    End of Regular Season RPI: 45
    Notable Wins: Kansas State (Home), Oklahoma State (Home), Baylor (Road), Florida Gulf Coast (Home), Oklahoma (Home and Conf Tourney), UConn (NCAA Tourney)
    Bad Loses: Iowa (Away), Texas Tech (Away), Texas (Away)


    As you can see on paper, the two teams are very comparable.
    you have the tourney wins backwards.


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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycl1 View Post
    you have the tourney wins backwards.
    I may just be missing it, but where?



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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Triggermv View Post
    I may just be missing it, but where?
    you have UCONN in the 12-13 team wins, and Notre dame in the 11-12 team wins.


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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    When in doubt, go with the team that has the clear-cut best player. I'll take the 11-12 team. From top to bottom the 12-13 team is more athletic, but RW was just on another level by the time the UK game rolled around.



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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    Finished 3rd in conference last year with a better conference record. More dominant player in Royce on that team. 11-12 by a hair.



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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    I would have to go with last year's because once they gelled, and Royce became the point-forward, they were pretty hard to beat. But, I do think this year's team was a little more fun to watch.....just because everybody was a shooter.


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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    I think this year probably had more overall talent with Clyburn, McGee, Lucious, Niang etc., but Royce was basically unguardable and sometimes that's all it takes in college basketball so I'll say last year's team but not by a large margin.



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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    I'll take 2011-12.

    Babb would lock down Clyburn and Royce would go for about 24, 11, and 12.



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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    Gotta go last year. Allen>Lucious imo however close, babb on clyburn to help take him out of the equation, nobody to guard Royce and then Scotty w/ the tre. Plus I think Niang fouls out w/ Royce driving the lane.



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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycl1 View Post
    you have UCONN in the 12-13 team wins, and Notre dame in the 11-12 team wins.
    Good catch. Got it corrected



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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    On paper, I've got to give the nod to the 11-12 team with Royce on it. However, the only slight difference on paper was simply due to 11-12 catching the few breaks that the 12-13 team didn't. I also give the nod to the 11-12 team because they had a better Big 12 record in what I considered a better Big 12.


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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    Very similar. Last year's team would beat this year's team with a buzzer-beating shot.



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    Re: Poll: Which ISU Bball Team of the Last Two Years Was The Best?

    Who would have thought earlier on that I would have been including Florida Gulf Coast in our notable wins column, but I'm not sure how you can't at this point.



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