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    Frank Martin @ USC

    Anyone see how South Carolina finished? Let me tell you, they lost to a TERRIBLE Miss. St. (10-21, 4-14 SEC) in the first round of the SEC tournament 70-59. USC finished with a 14-18 record and 4-14 in the SEC. I bring this up because I hated that greasy gangster when he was at KState and when he decided to leave for USC I questioned why; A program that hasn't had any success (I believe) since 2004 when they last went to the dance. Was there something recruiting wise or other violations that would make Franky get out of Dodge (or Manhattan) quick? Or just for the money and the chance to build a garbage program up, the challenge perhaps? Who knows, I'm just glad to see failure and I hope he's assistant coach at some garbage SWAC program in 3 years. Anyone else share my joy?



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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    People still hate on Frank Martin? That is sooo 2007.

    I remember when all the haters said he'd be nothing without Beasley and Walker. Yeah, that worked out. I miss Frank Martin in the Big 12. He's definitely one of my favorites. I don't care what he looks like, the guy was a class act for the very most part at K-State.



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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    I actually do not share in your joy. Almost every account I heard was positive towards Martin. Sure he looked scary on the sidelines, but I've personally only heard great things. Martin was the first person in the Big 12 to welcome Hoiberg in to to the Big 12 coaching family. I don't know why he left K-State, but have not heard anything shady going on. I wish him the best at SC.


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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    He and the AD at K-State essentially hated each other. That is why he wanted to get out of town as soon as possible. He tried to get the Miami job the year before as well. But an awful year for angry Frank.


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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    Id rather lose every game I coached at any other school then be coach at a school who wears purple and cant beat Kansas.



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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    If I remember right he left K-State because of an ongoing feud with the AD



    Im just glad I have Homan as my bodyguard, Eustachy joked. If I ever make it real big and get to drive a limo everyday, hell be driving it. I thought he came off the bench like somebody was stealing his cow or something.

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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    On the other hand, no one had ever done more with someone else's players than Bruce Weber. Let's see how he recruits. My guess is not very well



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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    Didn't know that he was at odds with the AD. I don't miss him because the dude could coach and he made KState a tough win at Hilton and the Octagon. I do miss him however for his blow-ups.



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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    Quote Originally Posted by 83Clone View Post
    On the other hand, no one had ever done more with someone else's players than Bruce Weber. Let's see how he recruits. My guess is not very well
    My guess is he will do just as good with these players as he did with Bill Self's at Illinois. Weber is a good coach, but SUCKS at recruiting.



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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    My guess is he will do just as good with these players as he did with Bill Self's at Illinois. Weber is a good coach, but SUCKS at recruiting.
    While that was the knock on him for years at Illinois, at the end of his run there, he recruited really well, but the team was not well coached and under performed.



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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    That's because he recruited the softest big men ever and all of his guards were sg's and not pg's. that's a recruiting problem.



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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    Quote Originally Posted by CyJack13 View Post
    While that was the knock on him for years at Illinois, at the end of his run there, he recruited really well, but the team was not well coached and under performed.
    That's because he doesn't recruit to a system. Get's great talent, then let's them free-lance.



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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    My guess is he will do just as good with these players as he did with Bill Self's at Illinois. Weber is a good coach, but SUCKS at recruiting.
    Doesnt he also has issues developing players.

    I think he is a similar coach to Greg Mcd. Only difference is he walked into teams with talent.


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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    I kind of like him, but the move is still a head scratcher.



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    Re: Frank Martin @ USC

    I actually began enjoying Frank Martin. I think he was good for K-State and made Big 12 basketball more fun.



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