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    Re: Johnny Orr Court?

    Quote Originally Posted by FDWxMan View Post
    Please.

    Orr left on a 4-10 Big 8 record. No postseason. He was 27-43 in conference his final five years.

    Floyd came in and went 6-8 with Orr's guys.

    It wasn't until the second year that Floyd won the Big 8 tourney Hoiberg-style, with a team full of transfers.

    Orr was an OK coach (talking ISU tenure only) who benefits from a being very colorful character and played a more exciting style. But his actual results are over-weighted greatly by nostalgia.
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    Re: Johnny Orr Court?

    If Johnny would have came back for Fred's senior year I would have bet that they would have struggled to make the tournament. The team was 0-2 in the conference the year before until Meyer got hit by a train. They were stuggling because Jacy Holloway and Jason Kimbrough were not any good. Tim Floyd had to come in teach those guys to play a little defense. If I didnt know any better I would think that Johnny Orr won 5 or six conference titles here.



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    Re: Johnny Orr Court?

    Quote Originally Posted by KnappShack View Post
    I'm going way back, but didn't Johnny have his name on a bar back in the mid 90's?

    It didn't last long, but I remember watching football one weekend at that place
    Yes..it was attached to a hotel on Duff



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    Re: Johnny Orr Court?

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Orr's first season: 9-18; 2-12
    Orr's last season: 14-13; 4-10

    not exactly full circle, but he didn't exactly leave on top of his game, either.

    by the way, those records are more typical of Orr's tenure and are completely glossed over. If ISU weren't a complete dumpster fire prior to his arrival, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

    The fact that ISU fans want to name the court after Orr, which is probably the height of honor a school can give a coach, is the perfect example of how much this fan base has embraced mediocrity.

    I don't hate Orr, on the contrary, he did great things for ISU. But naming the floor should be saved for achievements much greater than "he made us respectable". Coach K, Coach Summitt, and Coach Sutton all did great things nationally. Orr's great national things were done at another school and his great accomplishment was putting out a dumpster fire in Ames.
    Quote Originally Posted by FDWxMan View Post
    Please.

    Orr left on a 4-10 Big 8 record. No postseason. He was 27-43 in conference his final five years.

    Floyd came in and went 6-8 with Orr's guys.

    It wasn't until the second year that Floyd won the Big 8 tourney Hoiberg-style, with a team full of transfers.

    Orr was an OK coach (talking ISU tenure only) who benefits from a being very colorful character and played a more exciting style. But his actual results are over-weighted greatly by nostalgia.
    Do you guys remember why we under achieved his final year??? Loren Meyer got into a wreck, drunk with a train and the season went into a tailspin after that. So pointing out how bad his final season was is worthless.

    Plus the conference didn't have extremely terrible programs like Texas Tech, TCU, or even the Nebraska and CU teams that McDermott got to play.

    If you look at the coaches and teams in those years it's absolutely amazing.

    OU- Billy Tubs
    OSU- Eddie Sutton
    KU- Larry Brown- Roy Williams
    MU- Norm Stuart
    KSU- Lon Kruger- Dana Altman
    NU- Danny Nee
    CU- Ok... They sucked...


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    Re: Johnny Orr Court?

    Quote Originally Posted by bellzisu View Post
    Do you guys remember why we under achieved his final year??? Loren Meyer got into a wreck, drunk with a train and the season went into a tailspin after that. So pointing out how bad his final season was is worthless.
    0-2 in Big 8 prior to the wreck.

    0-2 Big 8 AT HOME prior to the wreck. Hilton Magic.

    4-10 with Meyer? Maybe not, but let's not act like they were on a roll either. (Two losses were to 4th and 5th place finishers Neb and OU).



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    Re: Johnny Orr Court?

    Quote Originally Posted by FDWxMan View Post
    And I don't mean to hate Orr, but if you actually step back and look, I just don't think the accomplishments stack up to:
    A bar
    And a statue
    And a banner
    AND the floor. Hell. At that point his name will be on enough in the building that you might was well name the whole Coliseum after him.

    And it would seem Pollard agrees.
    Orr Magic?

    Kinda catchy. Hilton has had his name on there for long enough.



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