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    Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    Not that it matters, and maybe we are, but the Big 12 Conference site shows Oklahoma and then us. What is the tie breaker?

    Men's Basketball Big12 Overall
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    Kansas 14-4 26-5
    Kansas State 14-4 25-6
    Oklahoma State 13-5 23-7
    Oklahoma 11-7 20-10
    Iowa State 11-7 21-10
    Baylor 9-9 18-13
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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    Quote Originally Posted by stateofmind View Post
    Not that it matters, and maybe we are, but the Big 12 Conference site shows Oklahoma and then us. What is the tie breaker?

    Men's Basketball Big12 Overall
    Team Record Record
    Kansas 14-4 26-5
    Kansas State 14-4 25-6
    Oklahoma State 13-5 23-7
    Oklahoma 11-7 20-10
    Iowa State 11-7 21-10
    Baylor 9-9 18-13
    Texas 7-11 15-16
    West Virginia 6-12 13-18
    Texas Tech 3-15 10-19
    TCU 2-16 11-20
    Yes we will be the 4-seed, it is wrong



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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    We're the 4. We each split with Kansas. We beat KSU once. They got swept by KSU.



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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    smh...we are the 5 seed.



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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    NO we're the 5 seed. They beat KU



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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonesince78 View Post
    NO we're the 5 seed. They beat KU
    So did we.



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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    We're the 4. We each split with Kansas. We beat KSU once. They got swept by KSU.
    I would say we swept KU if you're going to say we split with them.


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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    We're the 5, and those who say otherwise have no clue how this works.

    The relevant tiebreaker this year is the teams' records against individual teams starting at the top of the standings. If the teams to compare are tied, you combine the records against them together.

    So, starting at the top, KU and KSU are tied. so those games get combined. OU and ISU are both 1-3 against them, so you move to the next team.

    OU and ISU are both 1-1 against OSU.

    OU and ISU are both 2-0 against BU.

    OU and ISU are both 1-1 against UT.

    OU and ISU are both 2-0 against WVU.

    But... now we've found it. OU is 2-0 against Texas Tech, whereas ISU is 1-1.

    Due to their records against the 9th place team in the conference, Oklahoma gets the 4 seed over Iowa State. Judge that method how you will, but that's how it's done.

    If Kansas State would have won today, we would have gotten the 4 seed since they would be the outright champions and our 1-1 record against them would have trumped OU's 0-2 record. But that's not how it worked out.



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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    Quote Originally Posted by stateofmind View Post
    I would say we swept KU if you're going to say we split with them.
    We peed the game in Lawrence down our leg. We got Berryman'd here.



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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonesince78 View Post
    NO we're the 5 seed. They beat KU
    They showed it during the Baylor-Ku game and had us in 4th (could it be because we have the better overall record?)



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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyFan61 View Post
    We're the 5, and those who say otherwise have no clue how this works.

    The relevant tiebreaker this year is the teams' records against individual teams starting at the top of the standings. If the teams to compare are tied, you combine the records against them together.

    So, starting at the top, KU and KSU are tied. so those games get combined. OU and ISU are both 1-3 against them, so you move to the next team.

    OU and ISU are both 1-1 against OSU.

    OU and ISU are both 2-0 against BU.

    OU and ISU are both 1-1 against UT.

    OU and ISU are both 2-0 against WVU.

    But... now we've found it. OU is 2-0 against Texas Tech, whereas ISU is 1-1.

    Due to their records against the 9th place team in the conference, Oklahoma gets the 4 seed over Iowa State. Judge that method how you will, but that's how it's done.

    If Kansas State would have won today, we would have gotten the 4 seed since they would be the outright champions and our 1-1 record against them would have trumped OU's 0-2 record. But that's not how it worked out.
    this guy gets how things work.


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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    Does it really matter? The only difference between the the 4 and 5 is which color uniform we'd be wearing on Thursday.


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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyFan61 View Post
    We're the 5, and those who say otherwise have no clue how this works.

    The relevant tiebreaker this year is the teams' records against individual teams starting at the top of the standings. If the teams to compare are tied, you combine the records against them together.

    So, starting at the top, KU and KSU are tied. so those games get combined. OU and ISU are both 1-3 against them, so you move to the next team.

    OU and ISU are both 1-1 against OSU.

    OU and ISU are both 2-0 against BU.

    OU and ISU are both 1-1 against UT.

    OU and ISU are both 2-0 against WVU.

    But... now we've found it. OU is 2-0 against Texas Tech, whereas ISU is 1-1.

    Due to their records against the 9th place team in the conference, Oklahoma gets the 4 seed over Iowa State. Judge that method how you will, but that's how it's done.

    If Kansas State would have won today, we would have gotten the 4 seed since they would be the outright champions and our 1-1 record against them would have trumped OU's 0-2 record. But that's not how it worked out.
    okay this makes sense, apparently they were wrong on tv



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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Does it really matter? The only difference between the the 4 and 5 is which color uniform we'd be wearing on Thursday.
    But we've won 17 straight in white uniforms so clearly it matters



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    Re: Shouldn't we be the four seed?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyFan61 View Post
    We're the 5, and those who say otherwise have no clue how this works.

    The relevant tiebreaker this year is the teams' records against individual teams starting at the top of the standings. If the teams to compare are tied, you combine the records against them together.

    So, starting at the top, KU and KSU are tied. so those games get combined. OU and ISU are both 1-3 against them, so you move to the next team.

    OU and ISU are both 1-1 against OSU.

    OU and ISU are both 2-0 against BU.

    OU and ISU are both 1-1 against UT.

    OU and ISU are both 2-0 against WVU.

    But... now we've found it. OU is 2-0 against Texas Tech, whereas ISU is 1-1.

    Due to their records against the 9th place team in the conference, Oklahoma gets the 4 seed over Iowa State. Judge that method how you will, but that's how it's done.

    If Kansas State would have won today, we would have gotten the 4 seed since they would be the outright champions and our 1-1 record against them would have trumped OU's 0-2 record. But that's not how it worked out.
    EDIT: Since OU beat KU which is the #1 seed they get the #4 seed.



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