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    Another Point of View

    I'm a lifelong Kansas Jayhawk fan. The James H. Hilton Coliseum is named after one of my ancestors. I have family that lives in Iowa. Obviously, I only want the best for Iowa State.

    “I would say, ‘Hey we were fortunate we got a no-call there,’” Self said. “It could have easily been a charge. (But) how many times at the end of games do you have no-calls in those situations? “We were fortunate. I will not say we weren’t. It could have easily been called and if it was I couldn’t have complained. On the flip side, there are a lot of calls in a game that you could say, ‘Maybe that could go the other way.’ It was a hard game to call. It’s gotten a lot of national attention. I guess the league office felt they had to make some sort of statement.”

    “If we are going to get in the business of publicly making statements off of every bad call, let’s go back to the opening tip,” Self said, “because there are a lot of times the third foul on a big guy in the first half is the difference between winning and losing or second foul with 15 minutes left if it’s a bad call can be difference between winning and losing. It was a good crew (Mark Whitehead, Tom O’Neill, Bert Smith). I don’t think our bench was ecstatic on the way the game was being called either. I don’t think their bench was. It was a hard game. There were good players making plays.”



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    Re: Another Point of View

    Please. Its idiotic to complain about any foul against withey when he probably shouldve been called for at least 10.



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    Re: Another Point of View

    I think most Iowa State fans understand that that is usually a no call, but it was clearly a foul.

    The problem is that the foul was called on the scramble when the Kansas guy and Georges were tangled up. That was not a foul. And that is why we lost the game.

    And that quote from Bill Self is why I hate him.



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    Re: Another Point of View

    Quote Originally Posted by MysteryJayhawk View Post
    I'm a lifelong Kansas Jayhawk fan. The James H. Hilton Coliseum is named after one of my ancestors. I have family that lives in Iowa. Obviously, I only want the best for Iowa State.

    “I would say, ‘Hey we were fortunate we got a no-call there,’” Self said. “It could have easily been a charge. (But) how many times at the end of games do you have no-calls in those situations? “We were fortunate. I will not say we weren’t. It could have easily been called and if it was I couldn’t have complained. On the flip side, there are a lot of calls in a game that you could say, ‘Maybe that could go the other way.’ It was a hard game to call. It’s gotten a lot of national attention. I guess the league office felt they had to make some sort of statement.”

    “If we are going to get in the business of publicly making statements off of every bad call, let’s go back to the opening tip,” Self said, “because there are a lot of times the third foul on a big guy in the first half is the difference between winning and losing or second foul with 15 minutes left if it’s a bad call can be difference between winning and losing. It was a good crew (Mark Whitehead, Tom O’Neill, Bert Smith). I don’t think our bench was ecstatic on the way the game was being called either. I don’t think their bench was. It was a hard game. There were good players making plays.”
    Let it go already, Mystery Man. Sheesh, you'd think you guys lost the game or something.


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    Re: Another Point of View

    After justifying why you think your opinion should matter, you give us Bill Self's opinion.

    Swing and a miss.



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    Re: Another Point of View

    Another day, another moron from Kansas.


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    Re: Another Point of View

    **** off, eat ****, hope you rot go away

    You guys have put up an impressive campaign of boo hoo us kanass when you are the only jackasses that think this go away.



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    Re: Another Point of View

    And for god's sake Withey was called for 6 fouls before he was required to leave. It takes some sort of entitled person to start talking about 1 bad call early in the game. Melvin Ejim got called for a makeup call right after that and Melvin actually had to leave the game after being called for 5 fouls.



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    Re: Another Point of View

    This is the issue I have with every KU fan right now. It's not the no-call by itself. It's the ensuing call against Niang for apparently getting the call for being the one under the pile. And to add insult to injury Withey flying in over the back and onto the pile WHEN HE SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN ON THE BENCH FOULED-OUT YET DOESN'T GET CALLED AGAIN! But, sure, it's all equal. Poor KU.


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    Re: Another Point of View

    Anyone that believes ISU didn't get hosed in the game Monday night can **** off. It's a fact that it was a complete mess by the officials. It's extremely rare for such a bold statement to come from the Big 12 office which should drive home the fact the refs screwed up big time.

    I was livid Monday night. And I'm still very ******* ****** off. ISU did everything they needed to do in order to win. But they can't win playing 8 on 5.



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    Re: Another Point of View

    Get bent purple chicken fan. Why the **** do you azzhats still come around here?



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    Re: Another Point of View

    And furthermore....**** you.



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    Re: Another Point of View

    What do you have to say about Young taking Withey's 5th foul for him? That was very poor sportsmanship and classless. In the Big 12 golf tournament do we need to have a scorer follow the KU players to make sure they count all of their strokes and don't roll their ball in the rough?











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    Re: Another Point of View

    Yes, you are right, this is another point of view. It is wrong.



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    Re: Another Point of View

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Another day, another moron from Kansas.
    This is exactly right, I was expecting "another point of view" not the same bs Kansas fans have been saying for nearly two days now.



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