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    1986 Big Eight Championship game

    KU beat ISU 73-71 with the help of some funny calls down the stretch. If I remember correctly one was a phantom travel call on Sam Hill. The fix has been in for many a year.



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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    You mean to tell me that Kansas has been getting favorable calls for years?



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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    I really hope we win a NT or four so we're not still talking about last night 27 years down the road...



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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    Quote Originally Posted by Royalclone View Post
    KU beat ISU 73-71 with the help of some funny calls down the stretch. If I remember correctly one was a phantom travel call on Sam Hill. The fix has been in for many a year.
    I guarantee there were thirty travels last night if that call in Sammy was legit. One of my first experiences with this kind of BS



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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    Hate to say it, but for those of us on here that are still alive in 27 year: you will still remember last night's game.



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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    I was at the game in Kansas City. Cyclone fans were loud.



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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    Got that game on VHS. Phantom travel call on Sammy Hill. You are correct.



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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    Quote Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone View Post
    I really hope we win a NT or four so we're not still talking about last night 27 years down the road...
    You think ISU fans would quit talking about this if they had 10 titles?

    The correct answer is no.



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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    Quote Originally Posted by IowaStateClones View Post
    You mean to tell me that Kansas has been getting favorable calls for years?
    Phog Factor. They have no football team and this is makeup.


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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    Quote Originally Posted by Royalclone View Post
    KU beat ISU 73-71 with the help of some funny calls down the stretch. If I remember correctly one was a phantom travel call on Sam Hill.
    I was present for that game at Kemper. Sammy drove left, got hammered and threw in a hook shot. The whistle blew and we all assumed Sammy was headed to the line for the "and one". But no, wave it off and call traveling - game over...

    My eldest is a freshman at ISU this year and I recounted that story for him as we commiserated over Saturday night's game. To quote the Talking Heads, "it's the same as it ever was"...


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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    Phantom travel on our way to tying score and if I recall he was getting bumped hard as well.

    I remember non-Cy friends saying he wouldn't have made the FT's anyway, as if it was a given. Sammy was almost an 80% FT shooter.



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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    Couple of corrections - I think it was 1985 against Oklahoma.

    I can remember Johnny Orr talking about that play a couple years later on the call in show. He stated that the ref who made that call was barred from ever doing another Big 8 game.

    A few years ago I attended the Barry Stevens benefit game at Hilton and I went through the autograph line. When I got to Sam Hill I told him that he got robbed on that traveling call. Got a big laugh out of him.



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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    I am sure that I watched that game because all I have in my memory is a blur of bad calls in every game we have ever played against Kansas. God has mercifully wiped out specifics from my memory. I think they last about 10 years and then fade into a blur.


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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    Quote Originally Posted by cjclone View Post
    I was at the game in Kansas City. Cyclone fans were loud.
    Me too, that was the game where Grayer slammed over.... Greg Dreiling.... right? Great run back in the day (during my soph year)



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    Re: 1986 Big Eight Championship game

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCy View Post
    Couple of corrections - I think it was 1985 against Oklahoma.

    I can remember Johnny Orr talking about that play a couple years later on the call in show. He stated that the ref who made that call was barred from ever doing another Big 8 game.

    A few years ago I attended the Barry Stevens benefit game at Hilton and I went through the autograph line. When I got to Sam Hill I told him that he got robbed on that traveling call. Got a big laugh out of him.
    Unless I'm reading this wrong- no, it was definitely KU



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