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    Ref Tom O.Neill

    If this is correct he refed 2 games Sat.

    Tom O'Neill Officiating Schedule - College Basketball Referee


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    Re: Ref Tom O.Neill

    Can't be. Games were at the same time.



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    Re: Ref Tom O.Neill

    He did the Big 12 game. The other game was only Tom O'Neil with 1 'L'.



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    Re: Ref Tom O.Neill

    During the big winter snowstorm a few weekends ago there was a Big East game on ESPN where due to travel difficulties they made a big deal about one of the officials reffing his 2nd game in one day. May have been the Louisville-Notre Dame game even.

    Here's my thing; O'Neill has been officiating since 1996, according to the link. That's close to 20 years now. I'm sure his vision and reflexes have dulled in that time. Hell, look at Ed Hightower...that dude was officiating games when I was in high school. Back when they were younger these guys weren't all that good, and as they've gotten older they've only gotten worse. I cannot remember watching a game recently where even one of the three refs looked younger than 50.

    How much money is the NCAA making from the tournament? Enough to devote a portion to create a nice salary and benefits package to recruit some new, younger officials who know what they're doing I would have to imagine. Maybe then we wouldn't have to put up with the rank incompetence we've been seeing forever and a day now.


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    Re: Ref Tom O.Neill

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUChippewa View Post
    During the big winter snowstorm a few weekends ago there was a Big East game on ESPN where due to travel difficulties they made a big deal about one of the officials reffing his 2nd game in one day. May have been the Louisville-Notre Dame game even.

    Here's my thing; O'Neill has been officiating since 1996, according to the link. That's close to 20 years now. I'm sure his vision and reflexes have dulled in that time. Hell, look at Ed Hightower...that dude was officiating games when I was in high school. Back when they were younger these guys weren't all that good, and as they've gotten older they've only gotten worse. I cannot remember watching a game recently where even one of the three refs looked younger than 50.

    How much money is the NCAA making from the tournament? Enough to devote a portion to create a nice salary and benefits package to recruit some new, younger officials who know what they're doing I would have to imagine. Maybe then we wouldn't have to put up with the rank incompetence we've been seeing forever and a day now.
    These guys are still doing them because they're well respected in the profession.



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    Re: Ref Tom O.Neill

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    These guys are still doing them because they're well respected in the profession.
    Not after tonight.


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    Re: Ref Tom O.Neill

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    These guys are still doing them because they're well respected in the profession.
    Profession?



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    Re: Ref Tom O.Neill

    Time for Tom 2L to retire.


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    Re: Ref Tom O.Neill

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    These guys are still doing them because they're well respected in the profession.
    What are we comparing them against? I don't know how officiating works at that level as far as the employment cycle. Do these guys pretty much have jobs as long as they want once they make it? It just seems like there's not much turnover.


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    Re: Ref Tom O.Neill

    I understand these guys do a ton of games but when is too many! These athletes are bigger, stronger and faster each year. I think its time to add an official and get these calls correct. The ref that made the call on George couldn't even see his right arm on the reach. With 4 officials - the charge call may have been called. Also, officials are getting older - Hightower has been around for years. Higgins works every night. Time to give some other officials some chances and add 1 official. The game has past them!!!



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    Re: Ref Tom O.Neill

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    If this is correct he refed 2 games Sat.

    Tom O'Neill Officiating Schedule - College Basketball Referee
    It doesn't matter if he reffed two games Saturday. He simply lost control and was randomly blowing his whistle at the end of regulation. People (the type that shouldn't be reffing) are going to do that whether they're rested or not.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    What are we comparing them against? I don't know how officiating works at that level as far as the employment cycle. Do these guys pretty much have jobs as long as they want once they make it? It just seems like there's not much turnover.
    Generally the Big 12 test drives referees in non-conference games and the conference games are contracted out before the season starts. They are reviewed every single game and at some point this week they'll have a conference call with the conference office and go through game tape.

    Obviously the director of officiating is a little less biased than any of the fans of the schools. The officials will have to justify why calls were made/not made.

    A client who officiates at the collegiate level told me it doesn't matter what city you're in, every game with fans in attendance think the officiating is terrible and that every call is wrong. He said the biggest thing the conference looks for is consistency (which for the most part was good tonight...there were missed calls both for and against us...people just casually forgot the head scratchers which went in our favor).

    Unfortunately there is no perfect science to this at any level. The best you can do is try to get 3 guys who call similar games. You don't want a whistle happy clown with a guy who will let players play. There are going to be questionable fouls both ways and there isn't anything you can do to prevent that. Based on a couple clinics I've gone to, I'm not sure 4 referees actually helps. It makes it a bigger mess in a lot of ways.



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    Re: Ref Tom O.Neill

    The refs have been really out of sync in league play. They need to up their game like the players do.


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