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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by demoncore1031 View Post
    i really dont care about the stats. WE won this game
    yep.


    A storm is brewing.

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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by brokenloginagain View Post
    There's never been an elite eight team with a kenpom def efficiency >30. Ours is >100. Long term we have to improve d if we want to get to the level we all want.
    Agree, but ISU is really not that far from reaching that level. There really isn't that much difference from 100 in KenPom efficiency to 30. ISU could get get there with one good big.

    Coach Hoiberg knows the value of defense, but he just had the halftime crew at ESPN saying they wanted to play for him. That doesn't happen often. I've been ******** about this team's defense for weeks, but I'm totally onboard with the plan. Get the talent, play fun basketball, and then get than one great big and win the whole ******* thing. That's the plan, I think.



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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    3 pages in and no ***** joke? I am ashamed



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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUCyclones2015 View Post
    3 pages in and no ***** joke? I am ashamed
    I could not care less about dicks right now.



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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Agree, but ISU is really not that far from reaching that level. There really isn't that much difference from 100 in KenPom efficiency to 30. ISU could get get there with one good big.

    Coach Hoiberg knows the value of defense, but he just had the halftime crew at ESPN saying they wanted to play for him. That doesn't happen often. I've been ******** about this team's defense for weeks, but I'm totally onboard with the plan. Get the talent, play fun basketball, and then get than one great big and win the whole ******* thing. That's the plan, I think.
    I caught that, too. That was probably the most awesome thing I'd heard all night, and was hoping others heard it as well...especially if their name is Mr. Rashad Vaughn.



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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by demoncore1031 View Post
    i really dont care about the stats. WE won this game
    ...and the Gary Pinkel Award has a nominee



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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone View Post
    I caught that, too. That was probably the most awesome thing I'd heard all night, and was hoping others heard it as well...especially if their name is Mr. Rashad Vaughn.
    No disrespected intended, but who cares what media people say? Why do people trip over themselves to bestow credibility on the media when they compliment us, only to turn around and act like they don't know what they're talking about when they say something negative? Are we that desperate for attention?

    Again, we don't have to play defense like Eustachy did. But if this program is going to go where we hope it can, we need to play better defense. There's just no getting around it.



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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaCy View Post
    Letting a poor outside shooting team like KU knock down 54% overall and 52% from three in your own building won't win you many of those games, regardless of what the refs are calling.
    We have a unique team that doesn't match up well against them defensively (should have known that from the first game), however we are a mismatch for them on the offensive end as well. They made some lucky shots and got all the calls at the end, that's why they won. The team deserved this one and they were screwed!



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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone87 View Post
    We have a unique team that doesn't match up well against them defensively (should have known that from the first game), however we are a mismatch for them on the offensive end as well. They made some lucky shots and got all the calls at the end, that's why they won. The team deserved this one and they were screwed!
    Uh, we set a school record for three-pointers, including one that was intended as a (poorly thrown) alley-oop but went in. It's not like we can count on that every night out.



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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trice View Post
    No disrespected intended, but who cares what media people say? Why do people trip over themselves to bestow credibility on the media when they compliment us, only to turn around and act like they don't know what they're talking about when they say something negative? Are we that desperate for attention?

    Again, we don't have to play defense like Eustachy did. But if this program is going to go where we hope it can, we need to play better defense. There's just no getting around it.
    Um, lots of people. This was one of the studio analysts who was a former player, FYI, and I'm not exactly sure what you're complaining about...too much good publicity for Iowa State basketball?



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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    Our problem is we don't have a presence inside, especially when Ejim is out. That should change between one of the two JUCO bigs next year. Niang is not a defensive presence. He's alright on the ball and he takes charges but no one is worried about him blocking shots. We just don't have anyone in there and we just aren't good enough and stopping penetration. The frustrating thing is more often than not, Babb shuts someone down but someone else goes off because everyone else is average. Then tonight, credit to Johnson and Releford, they made some tough shots. You still shouldn't lose scoring 90 and Fred needs to take some of the onus on that. I felt Booker should have played a little more in the second half because he is a guy that could perhaps get in the way. I also agree with changing philosophy and for the life of me, I can't figure out why McGee isn't isolated at least sometimes.
    It doesn't help that Babb is the only perimeter defender with a pulse. Withey could be wearing our uniform and it wouldn't matter because he'd foul out every game because we can't keep anyone out of the lane and then when they do get in the lane we overhelp.



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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    While I get why people are concerned about defense, do you really want us to play the same ******* style that EVERY

    college team seems to be playing?

    Most NCAA games are complete snorefests. We're playing an exciting brand of basketball that will be attractive to premier players.



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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trice View Post
    No disrespected intended, but who cares what media people say? Why do people trip over themselves to bestow credibility on the media when they compliment us, only to turn around and act like they don't know what they're talking about when they say something negative? Are we that desperate for attention?

    Again, we don't have to play defense like Eustachy did. But if this program is going to go where we hope it can, we need to play better defense. There's just no getting around it.
    I don't care about what the media thinks. I have no idea what Rashad Vaughn and Nick Noskoviak think, but I do care what they think, and I bet they watch ESPN.



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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trice View Post
    No disrespected intended, but who cares what media people say? Why do people trip over themselves to bestow credibility on the media when they compliment us, only to turn around and act like they don't know what they're talking about when they say something negative? Are we that desperate for attention?

    Again, we don't have to play defense like Eustachy did. But if this program is going to go where we hope it can, we need to play better defense. There's just no getting around it.
    Jay Williams could have played for anybody in the country, and he said he wanted to play for ISU.



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    Re: I hope Fred puts more emphasis on D in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rural View Post
    While I get why people are concerned about defense, do you really want us to play the same ******* style that EVERY

    college team seems to be playing?

    Most NCAA games are complete snorefests. We're playing an exciting brand of basketball that will be attractive to premier players.



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    College basketball teams which win things that actually matter play defense. Defense is a constant, offense goes in streaks. We should never lose a game we score 80 in regulation. 90 is even worse.



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