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    Zone defense

    I've never been a big fan of teams playing zone. Always grown up thinking zones are for women and Syracuse. Though after seeing Fred go to it the past couple games. I think it could be a useful tool down the stretch. It appears to be a good way to protect the big men and get out in transition. I don't want them to start playing 40 minutes but mix it in when things get stagnant.


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    Re: Zone defenese

    Could be useful. I guess maybe these players are just better suited for some zone?? With that said, we lost to Texas and beat a really bad TCU team, so it's hard to say if it will help or not.



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    Re: Zone defenese

    It only works when we face a team that shoots as poor from 3 as TCU does.


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    Re: Zone defenese

    Quote Originally Posted by geburgess View Post
    It only works when we face a team that shoots as poor from 3 as TCU does.
    Which was Texas, until the last 3 minutes.



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    Re: Zone defenese

    Quote Originally Posted by geburgess View Post
    It only works when we face a team that shoots as poor from 3 as TCU does.
    Even against decent 3 point shooting teams I think we could get away with it by having Clyburn and Babb's length on the wings.



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    Re: Zone defenese

    I like that we are seeing more of it. I like that it looks like we are getting better with it. I really liked the Box and 1 we were running at UT. We have a few liabilities on defense. Zone helps cover that. We don't have a great post defense player. Zone can help that.



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    Re: Zone defenese

    Quote Originally Posted by siklon View Post
    Even against decent 3 point shooting teams I think we could get away with it by having Clyburn and Babb's length on the wings.
    I would much rather have Babb playing man-to-man on the other team's best scorer. Maybe try a Box & One if we try zone against KU/OSU/OU.


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    Re: Zone defenese

    I like zone or box and one every once in a while, but I'm not a huge zone fan when teams do it for full games. There was a comment by OP about us using it and getting stagnant. IMO, this is a common misconception about zone defense. When played well, it is by no means a lazy man's defense, and therefore shouldn't cause stagnation whatsoever.



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    Re: Zone defenese

    With the defense this team plays, I think zone needs to be used more. Could really hide our weaknesses.


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    Re: Zone defenese

    Well Fred just said in the post game we will continue the zone and maybe even play more. Also said they have a couple other defenses they have been working on that we haven't seen yet.



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    Re: Zone defenese

    Giving up offensive rebounds has been a liability this year. The zone is okay as long as this problem doesn't get worse because of it. In the zone everyone has to be uber aware of finding a guy in their zone to block out when the shot goes up.


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    Re: Zone defenese

    Quote Originally Posted by Luth4Cy View Post
    I like zone or box and one every once in a while, but I'm not a huge zone fan when teams do it for full games. There was a comment by OP about us using it and getting stagnant. IMO, this is a common misconception about zone defense. When played well, it is by no means a lazy man's defense, and therefore shouldn't cause stagnation whatsoever.
    To clarify, I was referencing the moments that our offense appears to go stagnant, not defense. I like the fast break opportunities the zone or box and 1 create on missed shots. It tends to help pick up the pace when other teams are trying to slow it down. We obviously prefer a faster pace.



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    Re: Zone defenese

    I like the zone as a changeup defense. I do not however, like McGee on the wing. I think he should be up top with Lucious and Babb should be low. But I trust Fred and there is a reason I am not the coach.



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    Re: Zone defenese

    Quote Originally Posted by siklon View Post
    To clarify, I was referencing the moments that our offense appears to go stagnant, not defense. I like the fast break opportunities the zone or box and 1 create on missed shots. It tends to help pick up the pace when other teams are trying to slow it down. We obviously prefer a faster pace.
    My apologies. That makes sense.



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    Re: Zone defenese

    I love that we've shown 4 different defensive looks over the last 2 games, and the ability to change it up possession to possession. Great way to keep teams on their heels.



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