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    Winning Now vs. The Future...

    First off, let me say I would love to be winning now, as I believe every other clone fan out there would too, and I go into every game hoping to win and convincing myself in my head that we have a good shot whether we really do or not. But...
    When GMac took this job he said, "If you want a quick fix, you've got the wrong guy." Very few people objected to that comment when he made it, but now a good number of people are acting like McDermott isn't getting it done because of FOUR GAMES in his SECOND SEASON with an injury depleted roster of youth.
    I VERY rarely make excuses, and I hate doing it, but the facts are, Lucca Staiger and Wesley Johnson are absolutely crucial to the success of this year's team...for the Bradley game and the Minnesota game, we went up against two very physical, experienced teams, and we did it with a bunch of freshmen and guys that came in as walk-ons, but were forced to play because of injuries and bogus NCAA rulings...I very much wanted to beat Bradley and Minnesota too, but it's absolutely rediculous to meltdown and throw a fit because we lost those two close games, when we were countering McKenzie, Tollackson, and Coleman with guys like Petersen, Haluska, Boozer and Garrett. Seriously people...
    This is NOT going to be a quick fix...it sure as heck does look good for the future though. But... Garrett, Brackins, and (hopefully) Staiger are going to take more than four games to figure out how to play Big 12 caliber basketball (especially defense), and I would hope people would realize that, as opposed to flipping out when we lose to a physical, senior led fundamental team...Add those three players, plus Wesley Johnson, and add muscle and knowledge of the game, and you should see some special things down the road........if you don't jump off the bandwagon first because you think we should be competing with Kansas for a title this season.


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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    I think I figured out why this happening.

    We haven't been good in football in 2 years and we haven't been good in men's basketball for 2 years. People are just dying for ISU to win. And when that isn't happening, it gets frustrating.



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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    Based on splitting the #230 best basketball schedule according to Prophet Sagarin and having to play UNI, Drake, Purdue and Iowa, let's expect to win about six games in non conference and six in conference for twelve wins.

    Now if we improve with Wes back and Lucca Freed and Jiri healed, let's expect a 18 win season and maybe NIT.

    No margin for error.


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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    losing sucks. We are losing a lot at every sport at Iowa State that I care about. It get's frustrating to see us constantly get beat.

    Also The Cyclone Student section sucks compared to when I was younger. We used to just go nuts. Now they have cheers they do. Not real neat if ya ask me.



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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    I should also note that when I say bright things down the road, I don't mean this season. I would hope people would realize that, but I guess a lot of people thought McDermott meant he would have everything clicking the way he wanted four games into his second season when he was saying not to expect a "quick fix". I also wouldn't put too much stock into schedule strength four games into the year. All we know at this point about our schedule strength is that we beat a couple cupcakes, and lost to a couple of senior dominated teams, with good fundamentals.



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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    I think I figured out why this happening.

    We haven't been good in football in 2 years and we haven't been good in men's basketball for 2 years. People are just dying for ISU to win. And when that isn't happening, it gets frustrating.
    I was thinking about this last night after the game. It's just getting so frustrating to be a ISU fan right now. We are going on 3 years since we had a real winner to cheer for and for fanatics like me who spend several hours a day on this site and others obsessing over the Cyclones its easy get frustrated and to lose perspective. I'll say this, GMAC really needs to put a winner on the court next year. Year three is critical...and I still have all the confidence in the world in him to get it done.

    Until then, people are going to come on message boards and vent...its normal and it doesn't make someone a bad fan...just passionate. We just need to stick together as a fan base and "help" some of our more frustrated bretheren get through these times cause if we play like that against UNI next week you might have to be talking me down off the ledge!

    Go Cyclones!



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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    Also The Cyclone Student section sucks compared to when I was younger. We used to just go nuts. Now they have cheers they do. Not real neat if ya ask me.
    This will really get the students going but hey, they're on break and won't even notice. But I agree, what happened to getting a little sauced and yelling at players/coaches and refs. Now they're concerned about which arm waving distracts the ft shooter more?



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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    what happened to getting a little sauced and yelling at players/coaches and refs.
    CA "code of conduct"


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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone62 View Post
    CA "code of conduct"
    what happens if you break said contract? You have to give back your t-shirt? <sarcasm> I get it you get premium seats and you dont want to F that up.



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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    I dunno what would happen, actually. I was told that what I was doing went against said code, and that I should stop. Didn't really push it further... Now I'm curious though. Maybe they'll tell me I can't participate in the cheers?


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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone62 View Post
    CA "code of conduct"
    Which part is against the "code"?

    A. Getting a little sauced.
    B. Yelling at players.
    C. Yelling at coaches.
    D. All of the above

    No wonder Hilton Magic isn't the same...students are being controlled by the Cyclone Alley Police.



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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    No wonder Hilton Magic isn't the same...students are being controlled by the Cyclone Alley Police.
    Shh... You're going to wake 'it' up, then we'll have hundreds of posts defending 'it'


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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    Here Link

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    be respectful of those around me at Cyclone Alley events and refrain from using offensive language
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    I understand that failure to comply with this code of conduct could result in dismissal from a Cyclone Alley event or removal from the Cyclone Alley organization at the discretion of the Cyclone Alley Central committee, Iowa State University Alumni Association staff, Iowa State Center staff, and/or Iowa State University Athletics Department staff.



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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    No drinking before going to a game?? They really do think they are the police. Thank the lord they don't have this rule for football.



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    Re: Winning Now vs. The Future...

    But it's all for the greater good! Us students need big brother!


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