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    Other coaches have us figured out?

    I am just a fan not an Xs and Os guy in basketball. (Just football) Did Huggins expose us, TCU and TTU just copy the game plan? Man, seems like three similar games in a row.


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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    Teams haven't exposed us. We just haven't been making the threes. Last night we had just as many looks as we have had any other game. Plenty of three pointers that were bricked. Just had a bad night.


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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    Teams that play physical defense are our weakness. So to answer your question, kinda, I guess.


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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    Teams know ISU likes to run, so they are going to try to stop that. Also, they know ISU is turn-over prone, so the longer they make us pass the ball around, the more chance we're gonna give it away. Also, not hitting the threes like normal really hurt.


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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    I don't think so. ISU was crushing West Virginia until they shot 75% from 3 in the last 9 minutes.

    TCU crashed the glass hard, but couldn't make a shot and ISU had their own offensive rebounds that game also (so at least we were trying).

    Last night was all about the lazy play of our team (turning the ball over, taking bad shots, and getting killed on the glass).



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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    Quote Originally Posted by cmjh10 View Post
    Teams that play physical defense are our weakness. So to answer your question, kinda, I guess.
    Yes. And many will sacrifice quite a few fouls because it has been working. It just seems like when ISU players try to adapt to that style of play they get quick whistles. Other teams feel they can trade foul for foul in the post because they are deeper in the post.


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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    As others have said, play tough defense and our guys will get all melty. I've not seen much like it before.



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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    Quote Originally Posted by mkadl View Post
    I am just a fan not an Xs and Os guy in basketball. (Just football) Did Huggins expose us, TCU and TTU just copy the game plan? Man, seems like three similar games in a row.
    Nope. Like others have said, we just haven't been hitting the threes as much. Granted the WVU is a weird game because we were blowing them out and they were hitting three after three, a few of them you couldn't guard better/were lucky. But when we aren't getting threes, especially from more than one or two players, teams can easily tighten things up in the post and that will hurt us big time.



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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    Quote Originally Posted by cmjh10 View Post
    Teams that play physical defense are our weakness.
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    Nope. Like others have said, we just haven't been hitting the threes as much.
    These two things are not unrelated. Get on the shooters and chase them all over place. Frustrate them and wear them down, and then sag back into the post when they've lost their shooting strength. One can counteract this with a deep bench by keeping fresh shooters on the floor.

    Unfortunately for ISU, since the post play isn't that strong, the defense doesn't have to back completely off the shooters to frustrate the post, and the bench doesn't seem that deep as far as shooters go...


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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    They've started. As soon as Lucious leaves the floor they'll zone a little bit because we don't have a zone buster who can drive the seams and dish. They sent 3+ to the boards because they know our guards want to release for the break instead of securing the board first.

    That and not having a guy on the block who demands a double team kinda hurts. Our post guys are really, really easy to defend.


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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    Our terrible play is not due to other teams figuring us out. Tech couldn't have played any crappier and we managed to surpass their level of crappy last night.



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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    Quote Originally Posted by awd4cy View Post
    Our terrible play is not due to other teams figuring us out. Tech couldn't have played any crappier and we managed to surpass their level of crappy last night.
    Not true. They played well defensively and that was enough. Part of their game plan was to hope that the refs wouldn't call their physical play in the post early and they got that too.


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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    I would hope every team in conference has every other team figured out. Figuring it out doesn't mean you can stop what the other team is doing every night out.



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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    We are soft, have no big men who want to get nasty. And we don't have a team leader. Its not rocket science to beating us. I think Scott Drew might even be able to figure that out.



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    Re: Other coaches have us figured out?

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    Not true. They played well defensively and that was enough. Part of their game plan was to hope that the refs wouldn't call their physical play in the post early and they got that too.
    Not too hard to defend us when we are that sloppy, unmotivated, and undisciplined on offense.



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