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    ISU Still #2 in ESPN Big 12 Power Rankings

    Good to see them have so much faith in us, but I still believe that teams 2-6 still have a lot to work out. I really see the Big 12 in tiers this year:

    Tier 1
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    Tier 2
    Kansas State
    ISU
    Oklahoma
    Baylor
    Oklahoma State

    Tier 3 (the all defense - zero offense tier)
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    Texas

    Tier 4
    TCU
    Texas Tech

    Conference Power Rankings: Big 12 - Men's College Basketball Nation Blog - ESPN



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    Re: ISU Still #2 in ESPN Big 12 Power Rankings

    TCU may be tier 5.

    Their writeup was brutal.


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    Re: ISU Still #2 in ESPN Big 12 Power Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    TCU may be tier 5.

    Their writeup was brutal.
    There may be some truth to this beings how they lost by 9 to Texas Tech in their own building. That is pretty bad.



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    Re: ISU Still #2 in ESPN Big 12 Power Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    TCU may be tier 5.

    Their writeup was brutal.
    They did beat Rice though by two points, so at least they can take solice in the fact that they aren't the worst team in Texas right?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Triggermv View Post
    They did beat Rice though by two points, so at least they can take solice in the fact that they aren't the worst team in Texas right?
    And Trent Johnson probably outcoached Scott Drew, so he's got that going for him.


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    Re: ISU Still #2 in ESPN Big 12 Power Rankings

    My guess is that only 4 of the 5 tier two teams make the tournament come year-end. I just hope that we aren't the one left out.



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    Re: ISU Still #2 in ESPN Big 12 Power Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Triggermv View Post
    My guess is that only 4 of the 5 tier two teams make the tournament come year-end. I just hope that we aren't the one left out.
    I think OU gets left out. They are somewhat of a fraud.


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    MM and gesell are pretty much a wash. is niang a better player than woodbury? of course, but that doesnt mean its a good matchup for him, especially with a much more athletic defensive player backing up woodbury.
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    Re: ISU Still #2 in ESPN Big 12 Power Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by GMackey32 View Post
    I think OU gets left out. They are somewhat of a fraud.
    I still don't know what to believe yet on them personally, but you may want to keep that on the down-low. CW is a pretty big Lon Kruger fan and might beat the crap out of you for that statement.



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    Re: ISU Still #2 in ESPN Big 12 Power Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by Triggermv View Post
    I still don't know what to believe yet on them personally, but you may want to keep that on the down-low. CW is a pretty big Lon Kruger fan and might beat the crap out of you for that statement.
    CW can bring it!


    Quote Originally Posted by johnnydugouts View Post
    MM and gesell are pretty much a wash. is niang a better player than woodbury? of course, but that doesnt mean its a good matchup for him, especially with a much more athletic defensive player backing up woodbury.
    Quote Originally Posted by surly View Post
    NOY Edwards, K-State



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    Quote Originally Posted by GMackey32 View Post
    CW can bring it!
    He may bring it, but he won't bring coupons.


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    Re: ISU Still #2 in ESPN Big 12 Power Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by GMackey32 View Post
    I think OU gets left out. They are somewhat of a fraud.
    I think it will be one of the Oklahoma schools.

    I think both Kansas schools, Baylor, us, and an OK school will get in from the Big 12



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    Quote Originally Posted by CyFan61 View Post
    I think it will be one of the Oklahoma schools.

    I think both Kansas schools, Baylor, us, and an OK school will get in from the Big 12
    If I had to guess, I'd say it's OU. Okie State has better wins and doesn't have the bad loss like OU does (lost at home to Stephen F. Austin).


    Quote Originally Posted by johnnydugouts View Post
    MM and gesell are pretty much a wash. is niang a better player than woodbury? of course, but that doesnt mean its a good matchup for him, especially with a much more athletic defensive player backing up woodbury.
    Quote Originally Posted by surly View Post
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    Re: ISU Still #2 in ESPN Big 12 Power Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by CyFan61 View Post
    I think it will be one of the Oklahoma schools.

    I think both Kansas schools, Baylor, us, and an OK school will get in from the Big 12
    I agree with this. I'm not 100% sold on either OK school.



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    Re: ISU Still #2 in ESPN Big 12 Power Rankings

    Quote Originally Posted by GMackey32 View Post
    I think OU gets left out. They are somewhat of a fraud.
    We'll find out a lot more about OU in the next 2 weeks.

    Numbers are still good -- 15-ish RPI, 16 SOS ... so far it's all on-paper. Good wins don't seem impressive (A&M, Oklahoma State) and top-100 RPI losses (Arkansas, SFA) seem "bad."



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    Re: ISU Still #2 in ESPN Big 12 Power Rankings

    I disagree. I think Kruger's coaching gets them in. They're undefeated in the conference at this point.


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