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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by tre View Post
    I say kids should be allowed to go straight from HS to the NBA, but if they go to college they be required to stay for 3 years before making the jump.
    This exactly. I think that Baseball has that portion of it right. (we can leave out the Junior college part though)



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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyJack13 View Post
    Yeah, protecting their product, what a crock!
    Never said it isn't better for them to have to play a year in college...just saying it should be left up to the individual and let them make their own choice. There are examples on both sides of this argument were college would have been good for some and not needed for others.



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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by KFitzy87 View Post
    2 years seems more appropriate. 1 year is too short for development reasons and is inconvenient for colleges/coaches. 3 years, like in football, is a bit too long.

    2 years seems right. Whether coming from HS or a Junior College, you should have at least 2 years in a program - that would align the two, somewhat.


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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard4Cy View Post
    1 and Done's make it so there will only be records broken on occasion in the NCAA while in the NBA records are being broken all the time. (See Kobe 30K, Nash 10K ast, LeBron 20K)

    it is ruining college basketball and making it hard on NBA teams. Players are not physically or mentally ready. (See Royce White)
    Steve Nash went to college...graduated from Santa Clara University. LeBron was absolutely ready for the NBA right out of HS. I'd say he was one of the few where it actually made sense for him to go straight to the league.



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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyJack13 View Post
    Yeah, protecting their product, what a crock!
    Human rights and the freedom of choice, what a crock!



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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by jj-cyclones View Post
    Never said it isn't better for them to have to play a year in college...just saying it should be left up to the individual and let them make their own choice. There are examples on both sides of this argument were college would have been good for some and not needed for others.
    Well then there really isn't argument to be made for the NBA to change the rule back to allowing HS to enter the draft then, is there?



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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    I would say LeBron is the exception, not the rule. For every LeBron, there are 10 that aren't ready, IMO. Think of guys like Kwame Brown, or Ende Ebe (however you spell that), etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by tre View Post
    Steve Nash went to college...graduated from Santa Clara University. LeBron was absolutely ready for the NBA right out of HS. I'd say he was one of the few where it actually made sense for him to go straight to the league.


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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    Human rights and the freedom of choice, what a crock!
    Huh? There are plenty of leagues for them to go play in, the NBA even provides them the opportunity to play basketball for a living in the NBDL. How exactly is this a violation of human rights?



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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU_phoria View Post
    I would say LeBron is the exception, not the rule. For every LeBron, there are 10 that aren't ready, IMO. Think of guys like Kwame Brown, or Ende Ebe (however you spell that), etc.
    I agree with you 100% about LeBron being the exception & most not being ready, but just because most aren't ready I don't think you should require a guy like LeBron to wait. That's why I say you go straight to the NBA from HS, or you wait three years before making the jump.



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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyJack13 View Post
    Well then there really isn't argument to be made for the NBA to change the rule back to allowing HS to enter the draft then, is there?
    You're missing my point. There are success stories for guys that jumped right to the NBA and then there are guys that were busts that had no business jumping to the NBA. But that fact the NCAA and NBA can force guys to go to college (or overseas or just sit out a year or whatever) and miss out on $$$$ is an absolute joke.



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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by jj-cyclones View Post
    You're missing my point. There are success stories for guys that jumped right to the NBA and then there are guys that were busts that had no business jumping to the NBA. But that fact the NCAA and NBA can force guys to go to college (or overseas or just sit out a year or whatever) and miss out on $$$$ is an absolute joke.
    No, you're missing the point. This has nothing to do with the NCCA, it's an NBA rule and serves a very good purpose. It's not a right for anyone to play in the NBA, they can set an age limit, like the NFL and many other sports leagues do. It's all about improving the NBA product and there really is no argument to be made that the one and done rule is not beneficial for the league.



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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyJack13 View Post
    No, you're missing the point. This has nothing to do with the NCCA, it's an NBA rule and serves a very good purpose. It's not a right for anyone to play in the NBA, they can set an age limit, like the NFL and many other sports leagues do. It's all about improving the NBA product and there really is no argument to be made that the one and done rule is not beneficial for the league.
    Just playing devil's advocate, but was it so bad for LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, or Kevin Garnett to be in the league the year after they graduated from HS? I'd say the league benefitted almost immediately from those guys being allowed to go straight to the league. Obviously, for evey LeBron, Kobe, or KG there are 10 guys that failed, but I'd say the LeBrons make it worth it.



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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    either should be able to jump right to NBA or if they HAVE to go to college stay at least 2. one and done is BOGUS



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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by tre View Post
    Just playing devil's advocate, but was it so bad for LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, or Kevin Garnett to be in the league the year after they graduated from HS? I'd say the league benefitted almost immediately from those guys being allowed to go straight to the league. Obviously, for evey LeBron, Kobe, or KG there are 10 guys that failed, but I'd say the LeBrons make it worth it.
    It would have been even better for the NBA if KG and Kobe had spent a year at Kentucky and Duke and were big name stars when they came into the league. It's not all about the player being able to compete at the NBA level. Durant and Carmelo both could have got minutes in the league right out of high school, but becoming huge stars after playing a year in college worked out much better for all involved. LeBron is a one in a million exception, but even with him if he goes to Akron and leads them to the elite eight or wins a title with OSU then goes pro, the NBA isn't being hurt at all in that scenario.

    Also it's not really fair to lump Kobe and KG in with LeBron there. LeBron was miles ahead both of them as 18-19 year olds.



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    Re: Should BBall players have to wait a year to enter the NBA draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyJack13 View Post
    It would have been even better for the NBA if KG and Kobe had spent a year at Kentucky and Duke and were big name stars when they came into the league. It's not all about the player being able to compete at the NBA level. Durant and Carmelo both could have got minutes in the league right out of high school, but becoming huge stars after playing a year in college worked out much better for all involved. LeBron is a one in a million exception, but even with him if he goes to Akron and leads them to the elite eight or wins a title with OSU then goes pro, the NBA isn't being hurt at all in that scenario.

    Also it's not really fair to lump Kobe and KG in with LeBron there. LeBron was miles ahead both of them as 18-19 year olds.
    So, why don't we just force kids to go to college for all four years? They'd be way, way better than they are after just one year in college.

    Just think how great the NBA would be if every player in the draft had four years under his belt at the college level.



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