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    Maurice Jones has work to do?

    On the latest podcast Chris comments about how he isn't 100% sure that Maurice Jones will be eligible to play at all for the 2013-14 season. So I'm guessing Chris possibly might have some inside information on that whole situation. Jones is supposed to be eligible to play after first semester. He would miss right around 9 games(approximately 29% of our regular season games). He would be back for the first game of the Diamond Head Classic on December 22nd if he gets the work done that he needs to get done.

    It would be a big blow if he isn't eligible at all next season IMO. I think he will be a better player than Monte Morris next year since he is much more experienced player (RS Jr), and also the fact that in 2 years in the Pac 12/10 he averaged a combined 36.3 mpg, 11.4 ppg, 3.4 apg, 2.6 rpg, 1.9 spg, 2.2 topg.

    Here are some links for a closer look at his stats:

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    Jones is Lucious' replacement and it would really hurt us if he is not eligible to play at all for the 2013-14 season IMO.

    Chris could you elaborate more on what you know about the whole situation?


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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by nallen34 View Post
    On the latest podcast Chris comments about how he isn't 100% sure that Maurice Jones will be eligible to play at all for the 2013-14 season. So I'm guessing Chris possibly might have some inside information on that whole situation. Jones is supposed to be eligible to play after first semester. He would miss right around 9 games(approximately 29% of our regular season games). He would be back for the first game of the Diamond Head Classic on December 22nd if he gets the work done that he needs to get done.

    It would be a big blow if he isn't eligible at all next season IMO. I think he will be a better player than Monte Morris next year since he is much more experienced player (RS Jr), and also the fact that in 2 years in the Pac 12/10 he averaged a combined 36.3 mpg, 11.4 ppg, 3.4 apg, 2.6 rpg, 1.9 spg, 2.2 topg.

    Here are some links for a closer look at his stats:

    http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/...e-jones-2.html

    Maurice Jones Stats, Bio - ESPN

    Maurice Jones Bio - Iowa State University Athletics Official Web Site - www.CYCLONES.com - The home of Iowa State Cyclone Sports

    Jones is Lucious' replacement and it would really hurt us if he is not eligible to play at all for the 2013-14 season IMO.

    Chris could you elaborate more on what you know about the whole situation?
    Count me as also being worried after I heard CW comments on his podcast. They seemed especially odd beings how I heard Hoiberg talk about Jones some on his call-in show like everything is on schedule for him. He said he is on campus now, is practicing with the team, and will be eligible second semester of next year. Therefore, I'm assuming that there is something CW knows that we don't.

    I also massively disagree with CW on his comments that he fully expects Bubu to be our starting point guard all of next year. I just don't see that happening if Jones is eligible second semester, or even if Morris is halfway decent. And if Bubu does start, I truly believe that would be a terrible sign for us. I could see how he could start for a while over Morris if Morris turns out to be pretty green. I think he would have to be VERY green for this to happen too. Lastly, my hardest thing to believe is that CW has Bubu starting over a RS Junior transfer from USC who was their team's leading scorer last season. I don't care how bad USC was as I'll take any BCS's teams leading scorer any day of the week and plug him in on our team. Why so much faith in Luscious, who had relatively underwhelming stats at Michigan State and such little faith in Jones? Keep in mind that Jones was rated as a 4 star recruit by ESPN, just like Luscious was. Anyways, count me as shocked by the faith in Bubu as I just don't see him developing to a starting point guard level. I still hold that it would be a terrible sign for next year's team if he ends up the starter all year.



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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

    Jones probably needs to make up some ground after missing the 1st semester. Obviously this is just a total guess, but between this semester and summer, he probably has to take a pretty large load of classes and perform well enough to make "academic progress", which was delayed by him dropping out of USC in the 1st semester.



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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

    I couldn't be less worried. He has all the support he needs and if he can't hack it I won't lose sleep over it.



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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

    I just heard rumors that he has to get academic things figured out with the way he left USC.

    Not completely sure how the two tie around each other, though.


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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

    Great if he makes it, eh if he doesn't.



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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

    I'm hoping Monte can handle it early on. Didn't Jones leave USC because of academic problems?



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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

    I would imagine that there are all sorts of knots to untangle to get it all worked out. I'm confident that if it can be, it will. Otherwise, I still feel really good with the experience of Bubu and the talent of Morris coming in.



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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

    Unless I missed something, we'll also still have Naz Long to play some point next year too.



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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

    We will have Bubu, Naz and Morris. I'm not too concerned. I'm not certain he starts as soon as he's eligible anyway.


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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

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    Unless I missed something, we'll also still have Naz Long to play some point next year too.
    You are 100% correct. I don't know how I forgot Naz in my above write up. Next year, I'd take Naz starting way before I'd take Bubu in there as the starter. I also shouldn't state that I'm worried about the point guard position as we'll probably have a lot of options available no matter what. However, I do hold to my statement that if Bubu ends up being our starter the whole year, that would be a very bad sign for us, even though I don't think he will. It would be less a testament to Bubu and more a testament against Naz, Morris, or Jones. I personally think we'll see a combo of Morris/Long earlier in the year and Jones/Morris later in the year, providing Jones becomes eligible. Analyzing Morris videos, I really have a hard time believing Monte will be a bust in college. He is just too good in my eyes.


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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

    [QUOTE=Triggermv;3257369]You are 100% correct. I don't know how I forgot Naz in my above write up. Next year, I'd take Naz starting way before I'd take Bubu in there as the starter. I also shouldn't state that I'm worried about the point guard position as we'll probably have a lot of options available no matter what. However, I do hold to my statement that if Bubu ends up being our starter the whole year, that would be a very bad sign for us, even though I don't think he will. It would be less a testament to Bubu and more a testament against Naz, Morris, or Jones. I personally think we'll see a combo of Morris/Long earlier in the year and Jones/Morris later in the year, providing Jones becomes eligible. Analyzing Morris videos, I really have a hard time believing Monte will be a bust in college. He is just too good in my eyes.[/QUOTEr]

    I think what Chris meant is tart bubu will start the first 9 games of the season for sure since Jones isn't eligible. At the same time Monte or naz will work into the rotation similar to the way niang did this year. Then when Jones becomes eligible I see bubu starting for a couple more games while working Jones into the lineup. Then right around the 1st or 2nd conference game Jones will be starting IMO. Then IMO bubu will be the primary back up. I honestly don't see too many minutes next year for naz or Monte at PG. maybe at the off guard or if we are playing a 3 guard lineup which is very possible next year considering how much better our depth is at the the guard positions compared to the forward positions.



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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

    I want Monte starting next year 10X out of 10. I like Bubu but he isn't a player I want playing 30 minutes a game. 10-15 minutes a game? Sure but freshman or not, Monte should be the starter next year.



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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    I want Monte starting next year 10X out of 10. I like Bubu but he isn't a player I want playing 30 minutes a game. 10-15 minutes a game? Sure but freshman or not, Monte should be the starter next year.
    I agree that I think Monte should start over Bubu in almost any scenario. This isn't football where you really shouldn't play true freshman because they aren't ready physically or mentally. Basketball is a different game and solid freshman can have an impact almost immediately. Also, when Bubu is your hurdle to jump in order to get to the starting level, that isn't a very big hurdle that I don't think Monte can handle. I'm also willing to go through a few growing pains intitially with Monte in order for him to develop into our long-term point guard, even if Bubu would have been safter in those first few games. Take a look around the league and you'll see a ton of true freshman players starting out of the gates and making a solid impact right from the start. One could also argue that Niang should have been starting from the get-go, as he has played solid all along, just didn't get many minutes. Hind-sight is 20/20 though with him and he had some more solid veterans he had to go through to get there. Percy and Booker are larger hurdles to becoming a starter in my opinion than Bubu or Naz. I also think Naz should be a bigger hurdle than Bubu too.


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    Re: Maurice Jones has work to do?

    I believe some of you are underestimating Bubu a little bit, he showed quite a bit of improvement last year (played fairly well against some quality opponents) and looked really good in Summer League (maybe even better than Lucious, of course I'm not implying he is by any means). If I had to bet I would take Bubu starting at the beginning of the year next season, as the season progresses that may definitely change after Jones arrives and Monte has a little time in the system. Also of note, from what I watched in Summer League Bubu may have improved his shot quite a bit.



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