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    Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    Just curious how some of you who have been to both compare them. Specifically noise level and capacity.

    Watching the big Monday intro made me curious. I understand they have a ton of tradition, but is it truly head and shoulders above most other atmospheres.



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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    Their intro and pregame atmosphere look better than ISU's. The "in game" atmosphere looks like a push.
    But, that is something that ISU really needs to work on for both football and basketball, is getting more excitement and more of an energy climax just before Tip and kickoff.


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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    INB4 smoke on the water doesnt suck.



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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    We're a top 20 environment. They're a top 2-3ish.

    About 2500 more people at the Phog. The noise (without students) is normally just below a peak at Hilton.
    And they are excellent at reminding you of their tradition.
    The Phog is a better homecourt, but that doesn't mean Hilton isn't outstanding.


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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonedave25 View Post
    Their intro and pregame atmosphere look better than ISU's. The "in game" atmosphere looks like a push.
    But, that is something that ISU really needs to work on for both football and basketball, is getting more excitement and more of an energy climax just before Tip and kickoff.
    I was thinking this.

    Their student section looked like our student section for football. I saw flashes of that out of CA last year, but there's still too many kids that just like acting goofy in front of cameras for my taste. Their students tonight looked angry and out for blood. No silly props, no kindegarten-for-adults feel. That used to be our student section. We're getting closer, but we need more of that. We're doing a great job with our students being smart-*****, but we need a little more anger.

    Their blue bloods look to be about as intense as ours.


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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    Their pregame stuff is much better. Our actual building is better- Allen fieldhouse looks like a HS arena. We need some spotlights and discoballs for player entrances like the wolves used to do. That was my favorite part as a kid.



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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    I was thinking this.

    Their student section looked like our student section for football. I saw flashes of that out of CA last year, but there's still too many kids that just like acting goofy in front of cameras for my taste. Their students tonight looked angry and out for blood. No silly props, no kindegarten-for-adults feel. That used to be our student section. We're getting closer, but we need more of that. We're doing a great job with our students being smart-*****, but we need a little more anger.

    Their blue bloods look to be about as intense as ours.
    This is my opinion as well. That student section needs to be hostile.


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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    The noise was better in Hilton, although the game I saw in Lawrence was against us during the height (or depth) of the McDoormat years, so it's not really comparable. The tradition stuff is pretty cool, like the newspaper reading/tearing up and the chant. Allen field house the building is also pretty damned cool.



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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    Quote Originally Posted by mtowncyclone13 View Post
    Their pregame stuff is much better. Our actual building is better- Allen fieldhouse looks like a HS arena. We need some spotlights and discoballs for player entrances like the wolves used to do. That was my favorite part as a kid.
    Its too bad we cant kill our lights for something like that



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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    Part of their intensity is simply the expectation to win. Not just games, but championships.

    That video they played right before their team took the floor for our game summed it up: "Expectations rise now. Conference play starts tonight."

    They're good. They've been good. They know it, and they expect it.
    We like being good. We like that we've had good years. We like winning, but we still don't fully expect it as fans.


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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    AF is a glorified high school gym so it is probably louder. It has history and KU is the definition of a basketball school. Oh, and they win a lot.

    Hilton is a top-notch venue and I prefer the feel of the arena (balcony, ribbon, scoreboard) to AF. We have a great home crowd and with more winning, I'd put it up against any atmosphere in the country.

    Until then, you have to give the KU faithful credit and the overall edge to AF.



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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    I haven't been to Allen since 2000 so not sure what they've done to it if anything, but it does feel like you're walking into a junior high or high school gym. Inside, you sit on wooden benches and the seat numbers are close. God forbid you get sandwiched between a couple of fatties. I remember pre-game being cool with this little warm-up thing their players did that got the crowd going. I wouldn't say it's any louder than Hilton when Hilton is rocking. In fact, the loudest games I've ever been to were at Hilton. But Hilton has slipped, unfortunately. Oh yeah, then there's the Rock Chalk Jayhalk KU chant at the end if they're beating you.



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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonedave25 View Post
    Their intro and pregame atmosphere look better than ISU's. The "in game" atmosphere looks like a push.
    But, that is something that ISU really needs to work on for both football and basketball, is getting more excitement and more of an energy climax just before Tip and kickoff.
    The thing about places like KU and Duke is their fans especially there students are maniacs the entire game. Our student section is good but it could get better and louder.


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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    Both are tame compared to the European basketball arenas per the video that was on here a couple mos ago.



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    Re: Hilton Coliseum vs Allen Fieldhouse

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    Its too bad we cant kill our lights for something like that
    Why can't we? Pitch black except for discoball specks then spotlights on the players. If Target Center could have the lights fully on within 10 seconds afterwards why can't Hilton? Maybe have a giant punching Cy start flashing and swirling on the court too. No... a tiny tornado graphic start spinning and midcourt then grow bigger until it encompasses all the seats up to the rafters. Add in noise and it would be best entrance in all of college basketball.

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