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    Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    I have reproduced a report by CNSNews:

    Columnist Robert D. Novak says two Democrats have told him that supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton are spreading the word that she has "scandalous information" about Sen. Barack Obama -- but has decided not to use it.

    "The nature of the alleged scandal was not disclosed," Novak wrote in his column over the weekend.

    "This word-of-mouth among Democrats makes Obama look vulnerable and Clinton look prudent," Novak wrote.

    Appearing on Fox & Friends Monday morning, Novak said his primary source is a "well-known Democrat" who is so far "neutral" in the presidential race. A second neutral Democrat confirmed the information, Novak said.

    Novak said the Clinton campaign is taking its cue from Richard Nixon, who once said he had damaging information about "the communists supporting George McGovern." Nixon, however, refused to divulge it because "it wouldn't be right -- I'm just too good of a guy."

    Novak said he doesn't know if the Clinton campaign actually has any dirt on Obama -- but he said he's "confident" that his sources have heard information to that effect from the Clinton campaign.

    Over the weekend, Obama -- reacting to the information contained in Novak's column -- suggested the Clinton campaign was engaging in "slime politics."

    "In the interest of our party, and her own reputation, Senator Clinton should either make public any and all information referred to in the item, or concede the truth: that there is none," Obama wrote in an email to reporters.

    He accused the Clinton campaign of trying to "Swift Boat" him, a reference to political attacks on John Kerry in the 2004 campaign.

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    Clinton Campaign Copying Nixon's Tricks, Novak Says -- 11/19/2007



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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    Hillary is a dirty trick.



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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    God, Im tired of dirty politics. Is it possible to have a good person run and win? Are we afraid to elect someone who has common sense and gives of themselves?



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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    Is that Robert "Please use me to leak stories, I'm easy" Novak?

    Maybe Obama's sources are leaking the rumor to make Hillary look bad...


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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    Interestingly, this is the second time an almost identical issue surfaces. In both cases, there are rumors about Obama, which right-wing media/commentators claim come from the Clinton campaign. The first one was the unfounded claim about Obama attending a radical Muslim school:

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    CNN debunks false report about Obama - CNN.com
    Media Matters - Right-wing media figures claim Clinton behind Obama/Muslim smears

    It seems either Clinton is trying to smear Obama or certain conservatives are trying to smear Clinton. I don’t know what to think.



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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    Isn't all of politics just one dirty trick after another? I fail to see how this is noteworthy.



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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    Please don't quote Robert Novak. He is scum of the earth, has no integrity (journalistic or otherwise) and should be roundly ignored by everybody.



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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    Robert Novak???? Credible Source??? I wouldn't use those two in the same sentence. Robert Novak would concoct the story to smear Both Obama and Clinton.

    Can't believe anyone would believe anything he writes or says. Talk about media bias.



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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    Quote Originally Posted by iceclone View Post
    Interestingly, this is the second time an almost identical issue surfaces. In both cases, there are rumors about Obama, which right-wing media/commentators claim come from the Clinton campaign. The first one was the unfounded claim about Obama attending a radical Muslim school:

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    CNN debunks false report about Obama - CNN.com
    Media Matters - Right-wing media figures claim Clinton behind Obama/Muslim smears

    It seems either Clinton is trying to smear Obama or certain conservatives are trying to smear Clinton. I donít know what to think.
    Why would Clinton smear Obama? Pretty risky move and I don't think she is that dumb. It smells more like a Swift Boat maneuver out of the Karl Rove Playbook. Smearing two candidates with one stone.



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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormin View Post
    Why would Clinton smear Obama? Pretty risky move and I don't think she is that dumb. It smells more like a Swift Boat maneuver out of the Karl Rove Playbook. Smearing two candidates with one stone.
    I find it far more reaching to blame the Republicans on this one than the Democrats. Smearing your opponent is nothing new in politics so obviously there is a reason to suspect Hillary. None of the Republican candidates have a large enough lead to be positioning themselves for the general election.

    Nevertheless, it could be the case that the story was fabricated by the columnist (Novak)?



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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormin View Post
    Why would Clinton smear Obama? Pretty risky move and I don't think she is that dumb. It smells more like a Swift Boat maneuver out of the Karl Rove Playbook. Smearing two candidates with one stone.
    I agree that it would be very risky. And I should have more carefully said the Clinton campaign, not Clinton. Idealistic campaign staffers often do stupid things, with or without the knowledge of the candidate.



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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    Anyone ever read Primary Colors? I guarantee that almost every candidate has some dirt diggers somewhere. Whether they choose to use the information depends on the perceived benefit and their personal sense of integrity. I wouldn't think Hillary is any more or less likely to do this than anyone else.



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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    Quote Originally Posted by alaskaguy View Post
    I find it far more reaching to blame the Republicans on this one than the Democrats. Smearing your opponent is nothing new in politics so obviously there is a reason to suspect Hillary. None of the Republican candidates have a large enough lead to be positioning themselves for the general election.

    Nevertheless, it could be the case that the story was fabricated by the columnist (Novak)?
    Maybe Novak is taking a cue from Faux Noise like in the Madrassa story case.



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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    Ok, I just listened to a snippet of her speach today, and I actually caught myself yelling at the TV. Seriously how can anyone vote for this piece of trash? She was blaming bush for the housing crisis. I mean in what alternate universe does she live in that it is the presidents fault that people borrowed over their heads? No one can seriously support this candidate.


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    Re: Hillary's Dirty Tricks?

    I'm still happy Bush will be out - I'm still working on trying to figure out who I want in. No candidates really jump out as ones I like. I'm sure I'll be trying to pick the lesser of two evils once the election rolls around.



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