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    Big 12 statistics

    Too soon to make too much out of this (especially before conference play begins), but Iowa State is doing well in a lot of statistical categories:

    Big 12 statistics through Dec. 18

    Definitely some low areas turnover margin is awful and FT% is weak, but no surprises there, from what we've seen.

    Pleasant trends in team rankings: first in scoring, second in scoring margin, first in rebounding, first in rebound margin, second in assists.

    Thoughts?



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    Re: Big 12 statistics

    It probably just means we had the easiest non-conference schedule. Yes, yes, I know... Debbie Downer. I really hate myself sometimes....


    Quote Originally Posted by RustShack View Post
    Can't wait until the season starts and CPR has Iowa State in a bowl game again to shut a lot of the idiots up.

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    Re: Big 12 statistics

    Quote Originally Posted by klamath632 View Post
    It probably just means we had the easiest non-conference schedule. Yes, yes, I know... Debbie Downer. I really hate myself sometimes....
    Actually, not even close.

    KU- 7
    OU- 23
    WVU- 30
    Baylor- 46
    ISU- 122
    OSU- 134
    Texas- 172
    TCU- 212
    KSU- 293
    TTU- 345



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    Re: Big 12 statistics

    What is going on with West Virginia? Their shooting percentages are terrible. I expect WVU to turn some of those numbers around once conference play starts, but they are going to be hard-pressed to finish in the middle of the conference let alone gain an at-large bid.



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    Re: Big 12 statistics

    Quote Originally Posted by 3GenClone View Post
    What is going on with West Virginia? Their shooting percentages are terrible. I expect WVU to turn some of those numbers around once conference play starts, but they are going to be hard-pressed to finish in the middle of the conference let alone gain an at-large bid.
    This applies to most of the B12. Somebody has to finish in the top half.



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    Re: Big 12 statistics

    I think K. Lucious assist to turnover ratio ( 1.3 avg. 9th in Big 12) will improve as the season goes forward. I think he is starting to buy in to what is needed after the Iowa game. He did not have any turnovers the second half of the Drake game. He is so creative he has a ton of assists. Unfortunately he has the boat loaded with TO also. As he gets command of this offense and the other guys find their roles, the guys will eliminate some of these mistakes. I predict he gets that up to about 1.6 to 1.8 in Big 12 play. Since he has a large number of plays (assists and to) it will be hard for him to move it much farther. jmo



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    Re: Big 12 statistics

    What I take away from the stats:

    Iowa State is good or average at everything except turning the ball over, at which they are exceptional! All kidding aside, Iowa State's assist/turnover ratio is actually pretty good.

    Iowa State has some weak free throw shooters but the team FT percentage is average. We don't have anyone who is so bad you worry about them playing late in the game. I worried about that a lot last year with Royce's free throw struggles.

    We all know that Iowa State is a great three-point shooting team. I'm not surprised McGee is leading the league in both three-pointers made and three-point percentage. And the man hasn't started a game!



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    Re: Big 12 statistics

    No way to know if any trends will hold up in-conference, and good stats don't always translate to winning potential — but being in good shape in multiple categories at least seems encouraging.

    Going beyond the conference comparisons, I like seeing this at the top of ISU's schedule page:

    2012-13 OVERALL RANKINGS

    I don't recall the last time ISU was top-10 nationally in scoring and rebounding (even pre-January).



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    Re: Big 12 statistics

    Quote Originally Posted by klamath632 View Post
    It probably just means we had the easiest non-conference schedule. Yes, yes, I know... Debbie Downer. I really hate myself sometimes....
    Seat's taken.



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    Re: Big 12 statistics

    In one of the previous game thread meltdowns, someone stated that ISU plays so slowly, we have to be the slowest paced team in the state.

    Of course that is completely, absurdly wrong - UNI is always one of the slowest tempo teams in the country. Per Ken Pomeroy's tempo statistic, we are 42nd in the country in tempo, and tops in the state and in the Big XII. Iowa is 63, UNI is 307.

    Now tempo is a tricky stat, some really really bad teams have a faster tempo than us.



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    Re: Big 12 statistics

    And when you adjust for tempo, ISU is scoring 1.083 pts/poss (3rd in B12) and giving up 0.928 pts/poss (5th in B12). Kansas, OSU, and Texas are all top ten in allowed pts/poss.

    Also, if you hate slow tempo games, you're going to hate the games against TCU...



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    Re: Big 12 statistics

    Quote Originally Posted by andymhallman View Post
    What I take away from the stats:

    Iowa State is good or average at everything except turning the ball over, at which they are exceptional! All kidding aside, Iowa State's assist/turnover ratio is actually pretty good.

    Iowa State has some weak free throw shooters but the team FT percentage is average. We don't have anyone who is so bad you worry about them playing late in the game. I worried about that a lot last year with Royce's free throw struggles.

    We all know that Iowa State is a great three-point shooting team. I'm not surprised McGee is leading the league in both three-pointers made and three-point percentage. And the man hasn't started a game!
    Well, he started against both Southern and 'Bama A&M, but I agree with your premise. As other people have said on other threads, it's the minutes and production, not the start, that matter.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CY88CE11 View Post
    Well, he started against both Southern and 'Bama A&M, but I agree with your premise. As other people have said on other threads, it's the minutes and production, not the start, that matter.
    Oh, you're right! I forgot about the two early games he started when Babb was suspended.

    I disagree with others who say that it's only the minutes that matter. Starting has to have an effect psychologically. McGee can log onto ESPN's stat page just like we can and he can see he's leading the league in three pointers. It must drive him nuts to have to grab some bench while watching Clyburn dribble the ball off his foot.



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