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    Re: School drop-off today

    Quote Originally Posted by cmjh10 View Post
    The fact that this might be true is incredibly saddening. Schools should be a place where children feel safe and want to have fun, not a place where they are worrying all the time.
    I substitute teach in the Twin Cities, and every district I've been in... almost every school I've been in, has a cop on premises. I don't think it makes kids feel less safe and worry more, they look at it as a "officer so and so who works at the school".


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    Re: School drop-off today

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    I was thinking about this yesterday, and for Indianola, I believe that would be six. I'm not sure we have that many on duty at any given time.
    It would take federal/state funding I'm sure. I lean towards less spending but I could get behind a program like this.

    It's become painfully obvious that there really is no way to completely prevent a crazy person from doing these things. We need to focus our energy on ways to limit the damage when it happens.



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    Re: School drop-off today

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    I think this is where we'll get to eventually. One police officer in each school.
    I was talking to someone about this today. The problem with armed officers in school is they will eventually become "desensitized" to their environment. These officers won't have their senses on constant alert like a prison guard or an officer patrolling a historically dangerous area. If an individual enters the building with the intent to kill, it is unlikely the officer would be in much of a position to react. While having an armed officer in the school certainly wouldn't hurt, I don't think it provides quite the solution people think it will.



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    Re: School drop-off today

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan32 View Post
    I was talking to someone about this today. The problem with armed officers in school is they will eventually become "desensitized" to their environment. These officers won't have their senses on constant alert like a prison guard or an officer patrolling a historically dangerous area. If an individual enters the building with the intent to kill, it is unlikely the officer would be in much of a position to react. While having an armed officer in the school certainly wouldn't hurt, I don't think it provides quite the solution people think it will.
    an armed officer isn't likely to prevent most crazies from getting into a building. The point of having an officer in the school is to limit the damage to a few people dead rather than dozens.

    If an officer would have been seconds away rather than minutes away, how many lives could that have saved?



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    Re: School drop-off today

    We had I think 4 full time security people and one police officer at Cedar Rapids wash. I don't think anyone felt more or less safe with them there. They were just like teachers, everyone knew they worked there and treated them as such.



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    Re: School drop-off today

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    an armed officer isn't likely to prevent most crazies from getting into a building. The point of having an officer in the school is to limit the damage to a few people dead rather than dozens.

    If an officer would have been seconds away rather than minutes away, how many lives could that have saved?
    I completely see your point, and agree that, at a minimum, the problem would get relayed to the appropriate enforcement agency faster. My point is that if some crazy enters a school prepared to take several lives, he/she likely does so heavily armed and prepared for a fight. In most situations I doubt a lightly armed officer will be able to do much to stop the shooter. I'm not saying it won't be helpful to have an officer in the school, and if it saves just one life I am for it. All I am saying is that I'm not sure it is the end-all solution to make schools safe.



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    Re: School drop-off today

    this is scary i walked into johnston high school today around noon had to pick up a jacket i left at the basketball game friday. the doors were not locked and not a single person checked me in


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    Re: School drop-off today

    i think the whole premise is to make a crazy person think twice about going into the school.


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    Re: School drop-off today

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan32 View Post
    I completely see your point, and agree that, at a minimum, the problem would get relayed to the appropriate enforcement agency faster. My point is that if some crazy enters a school prepared to take several lives, he/she likely does so heavily armed and prepared for a fight. In most situations I doubt a lightly armed officer will be able to do much to stop the shooter. I'm not saying it won't be helpful to have an officer in the school, and if it saves just one life I am for it. All I am saying is that I'm not sure it is the end-all solution to make schools safe.
    It is my understanding that in CT the shooter pretty much immediately did himself in once a regular police officer arrived with a gun drawn.



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    Re: School drop-off today

    When I graduated from Linn-Mar in 2008 there were only two doors to enter during the school days and both were guarded with on staff security. We didnt have any cops that worked there though.



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    Re: School drop-off today

    Quote Originally Posted by cymate View Post
    this is scary i walked into johnston high school today around noon had to pick up a jacket i left at the basketball game friday. the doors were not locked and not a single person checked me in
    You might want to shoot an email to their principal or something.



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    Re: School drop-off today

    It's funny how things have changed so quickly. I graduated from HS in 2004 and doors were never locked.



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    Re: School drop-off today

    I'd much rather have a police officer on site than arm school personnel:

    GOP Lawmaker In S.D. To Introduce Bill To Arm School Personnel | TPM LiveWire



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    Re: School drop-off today

    Quote Originally Posted by JWIL4CY View Post
    It's funny how things have changed so quickly. I graduated from HS in 2004 and doors were never locked.
    I think they locked one of the back doors to my HS because kids were sneaking out to smoke and then coming back in through it.


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    Re: School drop-off today

    Quote Originally Posted by cmjh10 View Post
    The fact that this might be true is incredibly saddening. Schools should be a place where children feel safe and want to have fun, not a place where they are worrying all the time.
    Agree, but eventually the police offer becomes no big deal and they barely notice him. My highschool had one and noone every paid him any mind at all after awhile. Just a fallback in case of emergency. We never worried. Although maybe we should have, but buddys brother got stabbed by a girl who was obsessed with him.



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