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    Rhoads buyout figure

    I'm under the impression based on what I've read that if ISU were to let him go, they would owe him something like $750 K per the amount of years that are remaining on his current deal.

    Does that buyout figure translate to another program wanting to hire him away and what they would owe ISU, or is that buyout a different number all together?

    I know ISU got paid a buyout of around $800 K when Creighton hired McDoormat away from us, and seemed like they got similar coin from Auburn with Chizik. Since ISU is committed to Rhoads for the long haul, how is this buyout different....or is it?

    Nobody needs to get panties in a wad....just curious.


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    Re: Rhoads buyout figure

    Isu got a payout from creighton and auburn. Cpr would have to pay us 1 year salary pre bonuses. Around 800k


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    Re: Rhoads buyout figure

    Does not really matter what the buyout figure would be. Any school CPR would leave ISU for would not bat an eye at a multimillion dollar figure to get him if they wanted him.



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    Re: Rhoads buyout figure

    Yeah the risk is all on ISU's part in his contract. I wish we could have made the buyout a little steeper, but I'm not worried.



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    Re: Rhoads buyout figure

    Honestly, If CPR were to take a job elsewhere, I wouldn't care what his buyout would be.

    ISU could get paid $millions and I'd still be disappointed and sad that a guy who (right now anyway) is such a good fit for the job would be leaving.

    I know the possibility always exists for this to happen, and that having a buyout payment from someone in exchange for our coach would help the program out financially, but it'd still be a huge hit right in the gut.



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    Re: Rhoads buyout figure

    Quote Originally Posted by F5cy View Post
    Honestly, If CPR were to take a job elsewhere, I wouldn't care what his buyout would be.

    ISU could get paid $millions and I'd still be disappointed and sad that a guy who (right now anyway) is such a good fit for the job would be leaving.

    I know the possibility always exists for this to happen, and that having a buyout payment from someone in exchange for our coach would help the program out financially, but it'd still be a huge hit right in the gut.
    I look at it this way. If CPR leaves having a large buyout wouldn't be an issue. He will be going to a program that sees money as no option. These are the Auburn, Arkansas, Wisconsin level jobs that I think would be the minimum prestige level that CPR would even consider, if that. Any school with that level of support or more would just pay it.

    However, if a school like that wanted and hired CPR, it would be because he took us to a 9 win or so season. After that, ISU would need to hire a coach with a good reputation that would probably cost a good deal of money. Any buyout money that would allow us to hire a good coach with a proven track record would be huge for the program going forward.

    That being said, Rhoads isn't going anywhere.



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    Re: Rhoads buyout figure

    I'm not worried. I honestly think we just need to give him the tools to compete and pay him and his staff what they are worth and he will stay and build a real program here at ISU.



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    Re: Rhoads buyout figure

    I'm not worried about him leaving, but a little disappointed that the brunt of the risk sits in ISU's lap. I guess just for a little piece of mind it would be nice to know that Program X would need to cough up a million + just to pull him out (as opposed to 800K). Seems Tennessee isn't in the mix for his services, and provided Wisconsin doesn't come calling there really isn't another job out there that some huge step up.

    In the event that he does leave in the near future, we've got to be happy with how he would probably be leaving things. Obvious some attrition aside, its a full 85 man roster right now and some really nice facilities to lure in the next guy. I think those 2 factors right there make ISU far more attractive gig than when the Chiz came here.


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    Re: Rhoads buyout figure

    Maybe it was a week ago, T&T discussed ISU vs some of the job openings out there. I know, I know, my mistake in the 1st place for listening to that show..... They said Kentucky, Colorado, Purdue, among a few other places were better jobs than ISU. Perhaps they are(historically), but I think its completely situational right now. Overall I think those jobs are lateral at best "for Paul Rhoads". Maybe not for some guy in the Sun Belt though.

    At this point, Rhoads has built up ISU and has his players completely in place heading into 2013. CU, UK, or Purdue really are a step completely backward in that regard.

    They also mentioned CAL. I do think Cal could be a great job for a guy like Rhoads based on locale, and really don't know what they have for players and such. At this point, I just don't get how they think some slightly better than lateral programs (historically-Purdue/UK) would be worth a move at this point. CU has been in disrepair for nearly a decade now.


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    Re: Rhoads buyout figure

    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha Cy View Post
    Maybe it was a week ago, T&T discussed ISU vs some of the job openings out there. I know, I know, my mistake in the 1st place for listening to that show..... They said Kentucky, Colorado, Purdue, among a few other places were better jobs than ISU. Perhaps they are(historically), but I think its completely situational right now. Overall I think those jobs are lateral at best "for Paul Rhoads". Maybe not for some guy in the Sun Belt though.

    At this point, Rhoads has built up ISU and has his players completely in place heading into 2013. CU, UK, or Purdue really are a step completely backward in that regard.

    They also mentioned CAL. I do think Cal could be a great job for a guy like Rhoads based on locale, and really don't know what they have for players and such. At this point, I just don't get how they think some slightly better than lateral programs (historically-Purdue/UK) would be worth a move at this point. CU has been in disrepair for nearly a decade now.
    That's why we need more national television exposure - to get those media people in our new facilities so they can realize we're not a bottom of the barrel astroturf playing surface program like many of them try to ignorantly discuss.



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    Re: Rhoads buyout figure

    Two things to keep in mind. 1. His dad is very important to him and I really dont think he would make a move at this point because of that. 2. He had done great things at ISU and has got a lot of attention but at the end of the day he is only a .500 coach right now, could be a hard sell to a fan base.


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    Better than a national championship coach that won five games in two years for us.


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    Re: Rhoads buyout figure

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    Two things to keep in mind. 1. His dad is very important to him and I really dont think he would make a move at this point because of that. 2. He had done great things at ISU and has got a lot of attention but at the end of the day he is only a .500 coach right now, could be a hard sell to a fan base.
    I think his overall record would be overlooked. Say an SEC school was coming after Rhoads... Their perception of ISU football is that it is a low level high school program. In their eyes a coach that could take a high school program to 3 bowl games in 4 years in the Big XII and beat teams like Nebraska, Texas, TCU, Oklahoma State, etc... is one hell of a coach. Remember... Gene Chizik won 5 games in 2 years at ISU and went to the SEC and won a National Championship. Gene's 2 years at ISU proved a couple of things: 1. He can't coach for ****. 2. He has no idea how to build a program. 3. The guy has no understanding of how to build relationships with his players, fans, media, etc... The people down in SEC country are smart enough to know that a guy that can go .500 at ISU, beat some elite programs, build a program up, and has 100% buy in from the players, the school, and the fans could win big at a program with a big time budget, big time facilities, big time recruits, big time fan base, etc....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Better than a national championship coach that won five games in two years for us.
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    Re: Rhoads buyout figure

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonestate78 View Post
    I think his overall record would be overlooked. Say an SEC school was coming after Rhoads... Their perception of ISU football is that it is a low level high school program. In their eyes a coach that could take a high school program to 3 bowl games in 4 years in the Big XII and beat teams like Nebraska, Texas, TCU, Oklahoma State, etc... is one hell of a coach. Remember... Gene Chizik won 5 games in 2 years at ISU and went to the SEC and won a National Championship. Gene's 2 years at ISU proved a couple of things: 1. He can't coach for ****. 2. He has no idea how to build a program. 3. The guy has no understanding of how to build relationships with his players, fans, media, etc... The people down in SEC country are smart enough to know that a guy that can go .500 at ISU, beat some elite programs, build a program up, and has 100% buy in from the players, the school, and the fans could win big at a program with a big time budget, big time facilities, big time recruits, big time fan base, etc....
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