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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    Lately I have decided to not worry about the numbers. They always work out in the end. One way or another.



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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by BigLame View Post
    Think this class will be the best in a long while, regardless of how it fills out (personally, I think last year's class was the 1st true 'Rhoads' class & this is looking like it is shaping up very similarly).

    X-factor here is Lanning - where does he end up position-wise?
    Thinking should Webster be a LB - if Lanning went there and Knott 2.0 already there, we could have more depth than 1st thought. However, with Meeks joining the fold it kind of opens up opportunities for Lanning. Hell, probably end up @ QB after all the discussion/speculation.

    A little inside info revealed that he'll be at QB.



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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    I love this recruiting class, but remember, Knott & Lenz were 2 star kids out of High School. I will take all these kids that I can get.


    It doesn't matter how many stars these kids have before they get to Ames, its how many stars they have when they leave ISU that counts.



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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    This staff has taken, to this point, a 3 star with few offers, and two 2 stars, one of which had a lot of issues throughout his career, and turned them into NFL draft picks. That's pretty impressive.


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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    I think its finally becoming more and more evident that this coaching staff is in no way STAR struck. They obviously know how to sniff out the talent whether they be 2 stars, 3 stars, or not even rated. While I can't disagree 100% with the starz rating system...I do know it is horribly flawed and inconsistent at best. I bet the coaching staff would agree.



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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    No offense to any specific person, but I seriously wish we could sticky a thread that stated that just because you realized the star system isn't perfect, it doesn't make you a recruiting genius. Just because you believe in Paul Rhoads taking 2 star recruits and developing them, doesn't mean that he himself wouldn't like to be able to recruit more highly heralded players. You aren't the first person to point out a player who played differently than his ranking on rivals.



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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused View Post
    No offense to any specific person, but I seriously wish we could sticky a thread that stated that just because you realized the star system isn't perfect, it doesn't make you a recruiting genius. Just because you believe in Paul Rhoads taking 2 star recruits and developing them, doesn't mean that he himself wouldn't like to be able to recruit more highly heralded players. You aren't the first person to point out a player who played differently than his ranking on rivals.
    I think you're absolutely right, but I think the point is that Rhoads knows talent when he sees it and he could care less how many stars that kid has if he sees something in a kid that he likes. Browsing through Rivals, 247, Scout and ESPN's databases looking for 4 and 5 star kids is a starting point in the process but things that weigh heavier are camps, word of mouth from trusted sources, recruiting services like ncsa, next level athlete, or the myriad of smaller services that market and advertise a player's abilities. I think Rhoads knows that he has to take this approach...at least for the time being. He has wildly high expectations though...the kind that might make somebody seem like he's off his rocker or the kind that might make someone seem like a genius. Perhaps in a few years he'll be able to snag more 4 star guys from inside/outside of Iowa. Thats my bet anyway.



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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    Seems from Twitter that Wimberly may be changing his commitment?
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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by TXCyclones View Post
    Seems from Twitter that Wimberly may be changing his commitment?
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    She ask me is Penn state in Indiana

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    Losing Wimberly and Bibbs would really hurt this class IMO. Those are 2 of the better recruits we landed.... however, they are both JUCO's, so it doesn't hurt as bad as losing a freshman probably.

    And if Lanning is going to play QB, he will have to work a LOT on his passing ability IMO. His passing ability right now is not good enough for the Big 12 IMO. Not saying he couldn't get there with some work, but right now it's not all that impressive IMO.



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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    Losing Wimberly and Bibbs would really hurt this class IMO. Those are 2 of the better recruits we landed.... however, they are both JUCO's, so it doesn't hurt as bad as losing a freshman probably.

    And if Lanning is going to play QB, he will have to work a LOT on his passing ability IMO. His passing ability right now is not good enough for the Big 12 IMO. Not saying he couldn't get there with some work, but right now it's not all that impressive IMO.
    I think both Bibbs and Wimberly seem to have an obvious spot open for them if they both were to redshirt. They would replace holes left by Brun and the trio of RBs, respectively. However, we do have underclassmen at those positions that can fill those holes and another year to prepare for the losses if they do switch. I think we lose Wimberly and keep Bibbs.

    I agree with you totally on Lanning. After watching the state championship game it is clear that he is a very good athlete, but I don't think he is a Big 12 QB. I think he follows Luke Knott's path, and switches to another position relatively early.


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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    I thought Lanning was going to be a LB? Similar to Knott being the hybrid.


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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by RustShack View Post
    I thought Lanning was going to be a LB? Similar to Knott being the hybrid.
    He is being given a shot at QB. Although, like I said, I seriously doubt he ends up there. I'm pretty sure Knott was a better QB at a bigger school and he switched immediately.



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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    Losing Wimberly and Bibbs would really hurt this class IMO. Those are 2 of the better recruits we landed.... however, they are both JUCO's, so it doesn't hurt as bad as losing a freshman probably.

    And if Lanning is going to play QB, he will have to work a LOT on his passing ability IMO. His passing ability right now is not good enough for the Big 12 IMO. Not saying he couldn't get there with some work, but right now it's not all that impressive IMO.
    Losing Bibbs would hurt tremendously but with the depth we have at running back I don't think losing Wimberly would be as big a deal.



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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    Its not like our OC gives our RB's enough carries anyways.


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    Re: Iowa State's Class of 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by TXCyclones View Post
    Seems from Twitter that Wimberly may be changing his commitment?
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    Why would a juco go to PSU? As a quick fix to be the best non-bowl eligible team out there? I love their coach, by the way.



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