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    Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

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    1/1/04 Gator Maryland 34-7 West Virginia Maryland 41-7 West Virginia Yes
    1/1/04 Orange Miami 22-14 Florida St Miami 16-14 Florida St Yes
    12/22/07 Las Vegas UCLA 27-17 BYU BYU 17-16 UCLA No
    12/26/07 Motor City Purdue 45-22 Central Michigan Purdue 51-48 Central Michigan Yes
    12/31/08 Armed Forces Air Force 31-28 Houston Houston 34-28 Air Force No
    12/28/08 Eagle Bank Navy 24-17 Wake Forest Wake Forest 29-19 Navy No
    12/30/10 Holiday Nebraska 56-21 Washington Washington 19-7 Nebraska No
    1/9/11 BCS Title LSU 9-6 Alabama Alabama 21-0 LSU No
    12/31/12 Liberty Iowa State 38-23 Tulsa ? ?

    So 3 out of 8 times has the previous team won... It is very very very hard to beat a team twice in the same year.

    Go Cyclones and I am glad we're in a bowl but I am not a fan of this rematch business


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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    **** you Gumby!



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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    There was also an OU/Nebby Orange Bowl rematch in the 80's. It also had the previous winner losing in the bowl game.


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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    So roughly 50%? That's not much of a trend.



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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    We'll be fine. We beat them fairly handily the first time and there isn't much of a trend at 3/8



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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    Well, screw it. Forfeit the game right now.



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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    I was at the ISU vs Tulsa game and ISU was clearly the better team, and it was not even close after the defense figured out that they had to press the Tulsa receivers and take away the really shot thows.



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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    Tulsa just beat UCF twice in three weeks.



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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    We won by 15 against them the first time.

    Looking at the chart, there were three games listed where the spread was that large or larger in the first meeting and the team that won the first game was 2-1 in those bowls.


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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    Also ISU is missing a few key components from that W too....I wonder how much CPR actually showed Tulsa the first time around.



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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    Has JP seen this info? We should go to the Indy Bowl begging to let us go to Shreveport.



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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    I don't like bowl rematches, either, but I was curious how often it happened.

    Trends don’t tell us anything, although I assumed the question about the results would arise at some point.


    Here's a recent article (January '12) that includes more examples:


    College football rematches typically produce a different winner


    Headline is misleading, since it’s about 50-50. That isn’t “typically" anything.


    “Of the 41 rematches that I found in college football history, the loser of Game 1 is 21-20 in Game 2.”


    “But at least we can agree that the Game 1 result has very little to do with what will happen in Game 2.”

    Something in the .500 range should be obvious. On average, teams are likely to get postseason pairings with similar-level opponents. Could be circumstances when one team improves immensely and regular-season winner levels out or is moving downward.



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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    I don't like bowl rematches, either, but I was curious how often it happened.

    Trends don’t tell us anything, although I assumed the question about the results would arise at some point.


    Here's a recent article (January '12) that includes more examples:


    College football rematches typically produce a different winner


    Headline is misleading, since it’s about 50-50. That isn’t “typically" anything.


    “Of the 41 rematches that I found in college football history, the loser of Game 1 is 21-20 in Game 2.”


    “But at least we can agree that the Game 1 result has very little to do with what will happen in Game 2.”

    Something in the .500 range should be obvious. On average, teams are likely to get postseason pairings with similar-level opponents. Could be circumstances when one team improves immensely and regular-season winner levels out or is moving downward.

    Linked article is clearly written by a statistics major. Or, suhtistics, as they say in Indiana.



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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    Quote Originally Posted by bostrem00 View Post
    Also ISU is missing a few key components from that W too....I wonder how much CPR actually showed Tulsa the first time around.
    Well, Sam didnt play so there is that...I feel like not having a turnover machine playing qb gives us an advantage we didnt necessarily have last time.



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    Re: Bowl Rematch Trends (Spoiler: We Lose)

    Quote Originally Posted by AllInForISU View Post
    Well, Sam didnt play so there is that...I feel like not having a turnover machine playing qb gives us an advantage we didnt necessarily have last time.
    Steele actually played really well in that game. One pick off a tipped pass by a TE who really hasn't played much since.

    If Steele did that well, that tells me that Tulsa's defense is just not that good. We've seen what Sammy Football does to bad defenses (KU).



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