Results 1 to 15 of 15
  1. #1
    Prospect
    Points: 1,907, Level: 12
    Level completed: 19%, Points required for next Level: 243
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered1000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    24
    Points
    1,907
    Level
    12
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    I've read most of the bowl game discussion and all the projections I can find. All make the (very safe) assumption that West Virginia wins against Kansas. But what if that doesn't happen? Are we back in the running for the Holiday Bowl? Or did we need that 7th win regardless of what happens in West Virginia this weekend?



  2. #2
    Speechless
    Points: 271,457, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 9.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    isuno1fan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Clive, Iowa
    Posts
    17,520
    Points
    271,457
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 163
    Given: 36

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    NO...really won't matter. WVU to NYC for sure then. Holiday probably take TCU.



  3. #3
    Addict
    Points: 112,103, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 57.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    awd4cy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    9,711
    Points
    112,103
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 910
    Given: 607

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?



    This would happen if Kansas wins.



  4. #4
    Speechless
    Points: 277,468, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 36.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassVeteran50000 Experience Points
    chuckd4735's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Ankeny, Iowa
    Posts
    15,198
    Points
    277,468
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,152
    Given: 224

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    If that happens, and OU and KSU win, here is what I would predict.

    If the Big 12 gets 2 BCS:
    Fiesta: KSU
    Sugar: OU
    Cotton: UT
    Alamo: OSU
    BWW: TT
    Holiday: TCU
    Meineke: BU
    Pinstripe: WV
    HOD: ISU

    If the Big 12 only gets 1 BCS:
    Fiesta: KSU
    Cotton: OU
    Alamo: UT
    BWW: OSU
    Holiday: TT
    Meineke: TCU
    Pinstripe: WV
    HOD: BU
    At-large: ISU



  5. #5
    All-Star
    Points: 12,624, Level: 33
    Level completed: 97%, Points required for next Level: 26
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    10000 Experience PointsVeteran
    InCytful's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Omaha, NE
    Posts
    1,223
    Points
    12,624
    Level
    33
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2
    Given: 11

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    If Kansas wins, I'll know the Mayan 2012 end of the world predictions are true.

    Seriously, though, ISU is likely either Music City or that Dallas bowl, regardless of rest of the games.



  6. #6
    Speechless
    Points: 421,479, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 43.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    West Des Moines, IA
    Posts
    21,607
    Points
    421,479
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 655
    Given: 321

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    I think that makes them a stone cold lock for pinstripe.

    And i wouldnt be surprised by a KU win. They have a strange 'down week, up week, down week, up week' pattern. Each up week has gotten progressively closer to a win. If the pattern holds, either this goes to 3OT or KU wins. KU has shown flashes of ability. And WVU is a team that's shown its very beatable



  7. #7
    All-Star
    Points: 15,709, Level: 38
    Level completed: 8%, Points required for next Level: 741
    Overall activity: 8.0%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered10000 Experience Points
    WastedTalent's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    1,300
    Points
    15,709
    Level
    38
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 169
    Given: 0

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    I think that makes them a stone cold lock for pinstripe.

    And i wouldnt be surprised by a KU win. They have a strange 'down week, up week, down week, up week' pattern. Each up week has gotten progressively closer to a win. If the pattern holds, either this goes to 3OT or KU wins. KU has shown flashes of ability. And WVU is a team that's shown its very beatable
    Well KU is a 20 point dog, so you better be finding your local bookie. At this point in their season, and on the road it would take some big ones to pick Kansas.



  8. #8
    Prospect
    Points: 314, Level: 3
    Level completed: 64%, Points required for next Level: 36
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    3 months registered250 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    6
    Points
    314
    Level
    3
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Kansas wins close.



  9. #9
    Addict
    Points: 93,917, Level: 95
    Level completed: 41%, Points required for next Level: 1,133
    Overall activity: 37.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    cyclones500's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    9,426
    Points
    93,917
    Level
    95
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 265
    Given: 608

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayV View Post
    I've read most of the bowl game discussion and all the projections I can find. All make the (very safe) assumption that West Virginia wins against Kansas. But what if that doesn't happen? Are we back in the running for the Holiday Bowl? Or did we need that 7th win regardless of what happens in West Virginia this weekend?
    KU winning seems unlikely, but it'd be perfectly in line with this year's Big 12.



  10. #10
    Legend
    Points: 274,565, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 42.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsSocialOverdriveCreated Album picturesVeteran
    Cy$'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    14,072
    Points
    274,565
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 593
    Given: 999

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    doubt it does much at all...would be surprised that WVU goes to the Holiday Bowl...just doesn't make sense for TCU or Tech not to be picked there if they are available.


    Category 3 Boat Shoes Campus Rep
    PM for Discounts / Promo Codes


    Talk to ISUCubsWin for Category 4
    Talk to BU4ISU for Category 5
    Talk to mjacobs for Category XXX

  11. #11
    Starter
    Points: 11,786, Level: 32
    Level completed: 77%, Points required for next Level: 164
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience PointsCreated Album pictures
    DarkStar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Omaha, NE
    Posts
    638
    Points
    11,786
    Level
    32
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 50
    Given: 115

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Here are some numbers that the Bowl comitties will be looking at when comparing teams.

    This table is sorted by % Capacity.

    Team Capacity Games Toal High Average %
    Oklahoma 82,112 6 511,460 86,031 85,243 103.81%
    TCU 45,000 5 228,780 47,894 45,756 101.68%
    Texas 100,119 6 605,304 101,851 100,884 100.76%
    Iowa State 55,000 7 386,917 56,800 55,273 100.50%
    K-State 50,000 6 301,031 50,781 50,171 100.34%
    Texas Tech 60,454 6 343,251 60,879 57,208 94.63%
    WVU 60,000 6 340,297 60,101 56,716 94.53%
    OSU 60,218 7 395,895 57,799 56,556 93.92%
    Baylor 50,000 5 207,962 44,856 41,592 83.18%
    Kansas 50,071 6 247,971 46,601 41,328 82.54%

    Add the fact ISU has doubled its number of season tickets sold in the last 5 years and JP has some good numbers to work with when pitching us to a bowl game.



  12. #12
    All-Star
    Points: 26,245, Level: 49
    Level completed: 70%, Points required for next Level: 305
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    iowa_wildcat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Ames
    Posts
    1,298
    Points
    26,245
    Level
    49
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 49
    Given: 26

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Your chart is also very very deceptive. TCU sells tickets but any shot of the stadium will show lots of empty seats. Additionally, some fan bases travel well, others tend to stay home by the fire and watch games on TV.



  13. #13
    All-Star
    Points: 25,715, Level: 49
    Level completed: 17%, Points required for next Level: 835
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    F5cy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Washington, D.C.
    Posts
    1,178
    Points
    25,715
    Level
    49
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 154
    Given: 73

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    The way I'm reading dark star's table, if we finish the SEZ and end with a capacity of just over 60,000, that puts us behind only Texas and Oklahoma in the statistical category of stadium capacity. Talk about sleeping giant possibilities! Especially if we can continue to sell out the stadium.



  14. #14
    Pro
    Points: 35,266, Level: 57
    Level completed: 85%, Points required for next Level: 184
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    25000 Experience PointsVeteran
    istater7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    2,905
    Points
    35,266
    Level
    57
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 118
    Given: 88

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Really hoping for the Meinke Bowl..And I could see them taking ISU over Baylor



  15. #15
    Legend
    Points: 163,965, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 37.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Here nor there
    Posts
    12,208
    Points
    163,965
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 683
    Given: 991

    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by F5cy View Post
    The way I'm reading dark star's table, if we finish the SEZ and end with a capacity of just over 60,000, that puts us behind only Texas and Oklahoma in the statistical category of stadium capacity. Talk about sleeping giant possibilities! Especially if we can continue to sell out the stadium.
    If we can just get an 8 or 9 win season(s) in the next few years, we could easily have the type of momentum to climb out of the hole left from the many previous decades of indifference. Imo the growth we are currently seeing is from the "powers that be" slowly committing to athletics so that ISU can finally capitalize on being a large state university. We are still capable of much more- the type of momentum in ISU passion that comes with substantial sustained success.
    If ISU had a run like KSU under Synder in the past 10 years, imo we would be talking about filling up a 65-70k stadium.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: FS1
  • FOOTBALL: Iowa State vs. West Virginia
  • November 29, 2014
  • 11:00 AM