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    Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    I've read most of the bowl game discussion and all the projections I can find. All make the (very safe) assumption that West Virginia wins against Kansas. But what if that doesn't happen? Are we back in the running for the Holiday Bowl? Or did we need that 7th win regardless of what happens in West Virginia this weekend?



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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    NO...really won't matter. WVU to NYC for sure then. Holiday probably take TCU.



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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?



    This would happen if Kansas wins.



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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    If that happens, and OU and KSU win, here is what I would predict.

    If the Big 12 gets 2 BCS:
    Fiesta: KSU
    Sugar: OU
    Cotton: UT
    Alamo: OSU
    BWW: TT
    Holiday: TCU
    Meineke: BU
    Pinstripe: WV
    HOD: ISU

    If the Big 12 only gets 1 BCS:
    Fiesta: KSU
    Cotton: OU
    Alamo: UT
    BWW: OSU
    Holiday: TT
    Meineke: TCU
    Pinstripe: WV
    HOD: BU
    At-large: ISU



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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    If Kansas wins, I'll know the Mayan 2012 end of the world predictions are true.

    Seriously, though, ISU is likely either Music City or that Dallas bowl, regardless of rest of the games.



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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    I think that makes them a stone cold lock for pinstripe.

    And i wouldnt be surprised by a KU win. They have a strange 'down week, up week, down week, up week' pattern. Each up week has gotten progressively closer to a win. If the pattern holds, either this goes to 3OT or KU wins. KU has shown flashes of ability. And WVU is a team that's shown its very beatable



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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    I think that makes them a stone cold lock for pinstripe.

    And i wouldnt be surprised by a KU win. They have a strange 'down week, up week, down week, up week' pattern. Each up week has gotten progressively closer to a win. If the pattern holds, either this goes to 3OT or KU wins. KU has shown flashes of ability. And WVU is a team that's shown its very beatable
    Well KU is a 20 point dog, so you better be finding your local bookie. At this point in their season, and on the road it would take some big ones to pick Kansas.



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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Kansas wins close.



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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayV View Post
    I've read most of the bowl game discussion and all the projections I can find. All make the (very safe) assumption that West Virginia wins against Kansas. But what if that doesn't happen? Are we back in the running for the Holiday Bowl? Or did we need that 7th win regardless of what happens in West Virginia this weekend?
    KU winning seems unlikely, but it'd be perfectly in line with this year's Big 12.



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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    doubt it does much at all...would be surprised that WVU goes to the Holiday Bowl...just doesn't make sense for TCU or Tech not to be picked there if they are available.


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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Here are some numbers that the Bowl comitties will be looking at when comparing teams.

    This table is sorted by % Capacity.

    Team Capacity Games Toal High Average %
    Oklahoma 82,112 6 511,460 86,031 85,243 103.81%
    TCU 45,000 5 228,780 47,894 45,756 101.68%
    Texas 100,119 6 605,304 101,851 100,884 100.76%
    Iowa State 55,000 7 386,917 56,800 55,273 100.50%
    K-State 50,000 6 301,031 50,781 50,171 100.34%
    Texas Tech 60,454 6 343,251 60,879 57,208 94.63%
    WVU 60,000 6 340,297 60,101 56,716 94.53%
    OSU 60,218 7 395,895 57,799 56,556 93.92%
    Baylor 50,000 5 207,962 44,856 41,592 83.18%
    Kansas 50,071 6 247,971 46,601 41,328 82.54%

    Add the fact ISU has doubled its number of season tickets sold in the last 5 years and JP has some good numbers to work with when pitching us to a bowl game.



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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Your chart is also very very deceptive. TCU sells tickets but any shot of the stadium will show lots of empty seats. Additionally, some fan bases travel well, others tend to stay home by the fire and watch games on TV.



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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    The way I'm reading dark star's table, if we finish the SEZ and end with a capacity of just over 60,000, that puts us behind only Texas and Oklahoma in the statistical category of stadium capacity. Talk about sleeping giant possibilities! Especially if we can continue to sell out the stadium.



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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Really hoping for the Meinke Bowl..And I could see them taking ISU over Baylor



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    Re: Bowl game projection - What if Kansas wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by F5cy View Post
    The way I'm reading dark star's table, if we finish the SEZ and end with a capacity of just over 60,000, that puts us behind only Texas and Oklahoma in the statistical category of stadium capacity. Talk about sleeping giant possibilities! Especially if we can continue to sell out the stadium.
    If we can just get an 8 or 9 win season(s) in the next few years, we could easily have the type of momentum to climb out of the hole left from the many previous decades of indifference. Imo the growth we are currently seeing is from the "powers that be" slowly committing to athletics so that ISU can finally capitalize on being a large state university. We are still capable of much more- the type of momentum in ISU passion that comes with substantial sustained success.
    If ISU had a run like KSU under Synder in the past 10 years, imo we would be talking about filling up a 65-70k stadium.



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