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    Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    If people say we need to have a championship game and that we have to expand to 12 just so we can play a Conference Championship game. The BCS is going defunct, traditions are going out the window. I say screw it just do it with 10. Who's going to stop us. It's a stupid rule and likely legally wouldn't hold up in court. Especially since we are in a conference that has been raided. Not like they aren't going to take the Big 12 winner. To me it would be the perfect situation. Still get to play everyone in conference every year so no rivalries are lost. Just do it!



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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    ...nah...


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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    I'm not sure why you are referencing the collapse of the BCS on this. It is a NCAA rule, not a BCS rule.
    Rule 17.9.5.2 Annual Exemptions. [FBS/FCS] The maximum number of football contests shall exclude the following:
    (c) Twelve-Member Conference Championship Game. [FBS/FCS] A conference championship game between division champions of a member conference of 12 or more institutions that is divided into two divisions (of six or more institutions each), each of which conducts round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division;
    Is this really something worth bucking the NCAA over? I'm sure it would only help the Big 12 in the eyes of the always objective NCAA to be taken to court over this rule.


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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    I'm not sure why you are referencing the collapse of the BCS on this. It is a NCAA rule, not a BCS rule.
    Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!



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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    I've said this before. If it is that important to have a Big 12 Championship game (which I question), ask the NCAA to change the rule before you look at adding teams.



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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    That's all good until the SEC or Big 10 starts to go after some Big 12 teams to go to 16 in their conference or until the Big 12 is left out of the superconference talk b/c they refuse to expand.

    With the Big 10 expanding to 14 and probably 16 in the near future and the SEC now talking expansion again, it is time for the Big 12 to expand to at least 12 teams if not 14 teams.



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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    That's all good until the SEC or Big 10 starts to go after some Big 12 teams to go to 16 in their conference or until the Big 12 is left out of the superconference talk b/c they refuse to expand.

    With the Big 10 expanding to 14 and probably 16 in the near future and the SEC now talking expansion again, it is time for the Big 12 to expand to at least 12 teams if not 14 teams.
    Are you aware of the grant of rights?

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...l-abc-espn-fox

    The deal includes a "grant of rights" agreement, meaning if a Big 12 school leaves for another league in the next 13 years, that school's media rights, including revenue, would remain with the Big 12 and not its new conference.
    That means no other conference will come after Big 12 teams, and no Big 12 teams will be leaving for the foreseeable future.



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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    I've said this before. If it is that important to have a Big 12 Championship game (which I question), ask the NCAA to change the rule before you look at adding teams.
    What would this look like? If the NCAA changed the rule and let the Big 12 have a championship game, would it just be the top two teams at the end of the year playing in a rematch (since everyone plays everyone)? What would be the point of divisions if the schedule stayed as round-robin? Just curious in this unlikely hypothetical - not directed specifically at you chuckd, just in general.



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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    That means no other conference will come after Big 12 teams, and no Big 12 teams will be leaving for the foreseeable future.
    2025 isn't that far off.



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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    Are you aware of the grant of rights?

    Big 12 announces media deal with ABC/ESPN, Fox - ESPN

    That means no other conference will come after Big 12 teams, and no Big 12 teams will be leaving for the foreseeable future.
    The same thing was thought when the ACC made their buyout $50M but that didn't affect Maryland going to the Big 10 did it? So nobody can say that no other conference will come after Big 12 teams or no Big 12 teams will leave is a little premature.



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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    The same thing was thought when the ACC made their buyout $50M but that didn't affect Maryland going to the Big 10 did it?
    Buyouts are nothing like grant of rights.



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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    There's no need for a championship game when you already play everyone in the conference.



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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    Buyouts are nothing like grant of rights.
    All contracts are made to be broken. If a school wanted to leave there would be a negotiation and they would leave, however, it would cost them a pretty penny now. However, in the few years when there are few years left on the GOR it won't cost as much. Don't think everything is rosy. We have to look at the future, we can't be happy with where we are at now.


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    Re: Two Divisions...Five Teams each...Conference Championship Game...Just do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    I'm not sure why you are referencing the collapse of the BCS on this. It is a NCAA rule, not a BCS rule.
    Rule 17.9.5.2 Annual Exemptions. [FBS/FCS] The maximum number of football contests shall exclude the following:
    (c) Twelve-Member Conference Championship Game. [FBS/FCS] A conference championship game between division champions of a member conference of 12 or more institutions that is divided into two divisions (of six or more institutions each), each of which conducts round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division;
    Is this really something worth bucking the NCAA over? I'm sure it would only help the Big 12 in the eyes of the always objective NCAA to be taken to court over this rule.
    Just saying that if the powers that be absolutely insist on a Championship game I'd rather buck the system and have a ten team conference then add two teams and go back to the two year on two year off format for playing the other division. NCAA is a bigger joke then the BCS. If the super conferences come to be they will be irrelevant also.



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