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    Re: big huge elephant

    Yeah we actually gave up more points per game than teams have minus iowa, west virginia and kansas I believe


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    Re: big huge elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by FDWxMan View Post
    ???????

    ISU held all Big XII opponents below their scoring average for conference games, except Kansas. Don't know how that is a negaWtive at all.
    that is outstanding, and is why we are bowling.



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    Re: big huge elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    that is outstanding, and is why we are bowling.
    And in most cases it was better than a TD lower than the opponents Avg.

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    Texas Tech 32.1 24 -8
    TCU 29.7 23 -6
    Kansas State 38.5 27 -9
    Oklahoma State 38.1 31 -7
    Baylor 40.3 21 -19
    Oklahoma 43.1 35 -8
    Texas 35.4 33 -1.5
    Kansas 16.4 23 +7
    West Virginia 38.1 31 -7



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    Re: big huge elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    Alright name one offense we have shut down that we should not have. Any team with any talent scored over 30 points against us. Every team. Yet all everyone wants to do is blame messingham who has called two good games in a row and is getting better.
    WTF man, get a hold of yourself.
    ISU did better against WVU than all but 3 teams- without 3 key starters. I am assuming you are under the influence of some sorts to count a TD that did not happen as points for Mess. Wally would be a GD wizard if he was allowed to not count TDs that we gave up. Not to get personal, but I am not sure you can ever be taken seriously again with that logic. Anyone that is this hung-up on yards does not have the basic understanding of risk-reward that is requisite to function in society.



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    Re: big huge elephant

    Were a little anti clutch all across the board. Woody failed when he is usually rock solid. Passing game needlessly ****ed ktself, and our defense refuses to help itself. Team loss.


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    Re: big huge elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    Alright name one offense we have shut down that we should not have. Any team with any talent scored over 30 points against us. Every team. Yet all everyone wants to do is blame messingham who has called two good games in a row and is getting better.
    No team scored over their average against us with the exception of KU. How does that do for ya? Take Johnson, Smith and Sims off the 09 defense and tell me they would have approached this one. It's blatantly obvious to see that this defense is willing to give up yards, just not TDs. Messingham also isn't getting better. Outside of Ku have we scored over an opponents allowed average yet? I don't think so.


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    Re: big huge elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    Yeah we actually gave up more points per game than teams have minus iowa, west virginia and kansas I believe
    Where do we rank in pts/possession?


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    Re: big huge elephant

    Cool story bro...



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    Re: big huge elephant

    We just held a super explosive offense to far less than their averages... without three of the best defensive players on the team. I think you must not know what the team is really doing.



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    Re: big huge elephant

    To the OP, STFU. When your D is on the field most of the game they're going to give up some points. But Wally has done a great job. If the O were on the field longer the D could be fresher. But the bend-don't-break works well. Let 'em have the yards, just not the score. And we held them to far fewer points than anyone else. And we should have won.


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    Re: big huge elephant

    The only thing, really, is late in the game, we should have been selling out on the run. There really is not excuse for sitting in our base D with the game on the line and 2 minutes left on the clock. If they beat us with a pass, so be it, but make them have to pass.

    Other than that, it just proves that we need a better offense.



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    Re: big huge elephant

    OP got owned in his onw thread. Happy with the D all year outside of texas game.



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    Re: big huge elephant

    Quote Originally Posted by MNclone View Post
    You are right, i cant believe we gave up 31 to this no talent WV offense.
    Should rethink that statement.

    WVU hung 49 on OU.

    70 on Baylor

    49 on UT.

    38 on TCU.

    34 on OSU.

    And their coach hadn't figured out how to use T. Austin.

    We should have tied the game late in the 4th. That's not on Burnham.



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    Quote Originally Posted by leroycyclone View Post
    Should rethink that statement.

    WVU hung 49 on OU.

    70 on Baylor

    49 on UT.

    38 on TCU.

    34 on OSU.

    And their coach hadn't figured out how to use T. Austin.

    We should have tied the game late in the 4th. That's not on Burnham.
    He was being sarcastic.



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    Re: big huge elephant

    Whatever dude. It was a team loss tonight as it is every night. I am just tired of losing at freaking home.



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