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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    Quote Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone View Post
    This guy must be the Brick Tamland of sports radio, just listing off whatever random schools he can come up with. I do think Frostburg State University would make a fine addition to the Big Ten, though.
    Yeah I'm not sure where he's getting those names. FSU would be a head scratcher. The football program would be a good add obviously but the school really doesn't fit, let alone the fact that they'd be out on an island.



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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    Yeah I'm not sure where he's getting those names. FSU would be a head scratcher. The football program would be a good add obviously but the school really doesn't fit, let alone the fact that they'd be out on an island.
    What really doesn't fit is that FSU is actually pretty good at football. Seems as if the B11's criteria for membership is:
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    3. Mediocre FB program



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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    Quote Originally Posted by Frak View Post
    What really doesn't fit is that FSU is actually pretty good at football. Seems as if the B11's criteria for membership is:
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    Damn those TV sets... we would be a lock otherwise.



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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    Quote Originally Posted by CyFan61 View Post
    I don't see BC either, I would guess UVA and UNC. The Big Ten is all about adding contiguous states, Maryland seems like it's acting as the bridge between Pennsylvania and the big prizes in Virginia and North Carolina.

    Question is, when B1G goes to sixteen does the SEC do the same? NC State and Virginia Tech would have to be the favorites, assuming UNC is off the board. VaTech is a no-brainer, and the SEC would have an easy choice to pick a North Carolina school (as they don't have one yet, and in the past they didn't want to add a school in a state that they already have). I would lean towards NC State but you can't ignore Duke's prestige as an academic institution and a basketball institution.

    If the Big 12 wanted to join in... Florida State, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Duke or NC State, Louisville, Pittsburgh, maybe even Notre Dame would all be ripe for the plucking to get to sixteen. Just have to hold it together as the Pac-12 may come back to our area to steal Texas/Texas Tech/Oklahoma/Oklahoma State again. If we hold them off, their options are really limited. BYU, San Diego State, Boise State, Fresno State, Colorado State, Nevada... that's about it for them to choose from.

    So much speculation, so little time
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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    At some point, the balloon on this college sports market has to burst, doesn't it? It feels like we're obsessively pushing against the limits of reality with this thing. The crash could be spectacular.

    If a 14 game season ever happens, we need to drop the illusion and pay players straight away.


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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    Big 10 should've taken a unique approach to expansion: B1G and B1G Jr.

    Keep the original 10 for the main, anchor the secondary version w/ Nebraska and Penn State, and add 8 more prospects drawn from a hat.

    ... who knows, maybe that's actually the plan ...
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    The vast, vast majority of the money BTN makes isn't from ad dollars, it's from cable subscriber fees and as long as they can keep forcing it on the basic sports tier, the money will keep coming in.
    Ok, this is what I don't get. New York City/New Jersey accounts for about 11 million TV people, but only 3 million are admitted College Football Fans. Of those 3 Million, only 19% tie their allegiance to Rutgers or any of the other B1G teams combined. Thats 570.000 out of 11 million B1G fans. In Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, the cable companies had no choice with the large number of fans that wanted the Big Ten Network, but is .05% of the population enough noise to really get the BTN added to their cable bill?



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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    When news corp buys the YES network and uses it as leverage.... yes.



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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    At some point, the balloon on this college sports market has to burst, doesn't it? It feels like we're obsessively pushing against the limits of reality with this thing. The crash could be spectacular.

    If a 14 game season ever happens, we need to drop the illusion and pay players straight away.
    Why would it bust? Having college FB games makes more money than airing infomercals or reruns of whatever. There is a network of stations aimed at sports with little live action to fill their air time with. I dont know if this is true or not but it was stated last go around of this that ESPN makes Disney Corp more money than anything else they own or sell. There is a reason CBS, NBC, and now Fox are starting their own all sports national networks. As long as the big 4 are making money this money grab wont end. There are going to be 4 conferences when this is said and done and I'm glad the Big 12 got their **** together and have good leadership now so they can hopefully make it into the future.


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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    Why would it bust? Having college FB games makes more money than airing infomercals or reruns of whatever. There is a network of stations aimed at sports with little live action to fill their air time with. I dont know if this is true or not but it was stated last go around of this that ESPN makes Disney Corp more money than anything else they own or sell. There is a reason CBS, NBC, and now Fox are starting their own all sports national networks. As long as the big 4 are making money this money grab wont end. There are going to be 4 conferences when this is said and done and I'm glad the Big 12 got their **** together and have good leadership now so they can hopefully make it into the future.
    This, plus with DVRs being more and more ubiquitous, anything that is live is worth more- advertisers know you'll be watching it live and thus not skipping commercials!



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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    Yeah I'm not sure where he's getting those names. FSU would be a head scratcher. The football program would be a good add obviously but the school really doesn't fit, let alone the fact that they'd be out on an island.

    It's really more of a peninsula, since there is land in between, but I wouldn't expect an Iowa fan to be up on that type of stuff. This season's hottest colors, or the nutritional advantages of wheat grass versus bean sprouts, sure.

    Now Hawa'ii, they'd be on an island.



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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    Quote Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone View Post
    This guy must be the Brick Tamland of sports radio, just listing off whatever random schools he can come up with. I do think Frostburg State University would make a fine addition to the Big Ten, though.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA Like half the kids from my high school played for Frostburg, prob not half but seriously my high school football coach played for the Bobcats. They have a sick lax team too, thats gotta be worth some ratings #BOBcats2B1G



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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    Quote Originally Posted by Let's Go State View Post
    You won't break up Virginia and VPU. They'd have to take them both.


    Is VPU your personal nickname for Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University? I usually hear it called VT and their website is vt.edu.



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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    When news corp buys the YES network and uses it as leverage.... yes.
    But how does Rutgers fit in? You could get the East Central India Junior Cricket Network on NYC cable if it was tied to the YES network.



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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    Quote Originally Posted by ricochet View Post
    But how does Rutgers fit in? You could get the East Central India Junior Cricket Network on NYC cable if it was tied to the YES network.
    by contract, there has to be a team in the local market to charge the higher price.



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    Re: BIG Beyond Maryland & Rutgers

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    David Caplin sounds like an idiot. The only one of those schools that is a possibility is UNC. The guy is a moron if he actually thinks OU is going to go to the Big 10 - While OU would love to receive Big 10 $$$, essentially playing in the Big 10 for free because they won't be receiving Big Ten $$$ for 13 years because the old conference is getting it is a bit of a problem.
    It is just as likely that NE goes back to B12 as this.


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