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    Too much empty backfield

    Telling D it isgoing to be a pass. Why not keep a backin for blocking and keep defense having to consider flare out passes as well asdraws and screens. Woody is a goodblocker and since receivers are not getting open and dropping passes why nothave one more back and one less receiver on the field.

    Just throwing it out for thoughts.



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    Re: Too much empty backfield

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    Re: Too much empty backfield

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCy View Post
    Telling D it isgoing to be a pass. Why not keep a backin for blocking and keep defense having to consider flare out passes as well asdraws and screens. Woody is a goodblocker and since receivers are not getting open and dropping passes why nothave one more back and one less receiver on the field.

    Just throwing it out for thoughts.
    With the protection issues, I agree. Even if the back sneaks out for a pass, it leaves the D guessing just a bit.



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    Re: Too much empty backfield

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCy View Post
    Telling D it isgoing to be a pass. Why not keep a backin for blocking and keep defense having to consider flare out passes as well asdraws and screens. Woody is a goodblocker and since receivers are not getting open and dropping passes why nothave one more back and one less receiver on the field.

    Just throwing it out for thoughts.

    I agree and am frustrated every time I see five wides. ISU rarely executes in that set especially with Jantz who is not a good runner. I can see doing it more if your quarterback is a good runner. Then you still have the QB draw.

    I also think ISU rotates too many players in the receiving corps. There is no consistency there. Go primarily with three or four guys until they are exhausted and then you won't have your slowest receiver trying to run a crossing route when you need a catch and some separation for the run after the catch.



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    Re: Too much empty backfield

    Quote Originally Posted by D UP Clones View Post
    I agree and am frustrated every time I see five wides. ISU rarely executes in that set especially with Jantz who is not a good runner. I can see doing it more if your quarterback is a good runner. Then you still have the QB draw.

    I also think ISU rotates too many players in the receiving corps. There is no consistency there. Go primarily with three or four guys until they are exhausted and then you won't have your slowest receiver trying to run a crossing route when you need a catch and some separation for the run after the catch.
    Agree. Same with the running backs. I know they probably want to get everyone playing time, but any good back will tell you to get in the flow of the game you need consistent carries. And you can't just put Woody in there on 3rd and 1, they know he is getting the ball.



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    Re: Too much empty backfield

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    What is your problem?



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    Re: Too much empty backfield

    I agree about Woody. He just seems to step up every time the team needs him. I've wondered all year why he isn't utilized a lot more.



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    Re: Too much empty backfield

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCy View Post
    What is your problem?
    I think his problem might be explained in this way, an internet poster comes on a message board and says that we are running too many 5 wide sets as a blanket statement, and then expects to be taken seriously. It seems a bit silly.

    How many times to do we go 5 wide? What is that compared to how many times we keep a RB back to block? What are the coverages when we do it? What type of personnel are on the field from their defense? Are they running a 5-3 or a nickel?

    You do realize that all of these questions are asked and answered by the coaches in prep meetings and also on the field, right?

    Show us why your statement should be taken seriously?



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    Re: Too much empty backfield

    Quote Originally Posted by BooneCy View Post
    I think his problem might be explained in this way, an internet poster comes on a message board and says that we are running too many 5 wide sets as a blanket statement, and then expects to be taken seriously. It seems a bit silly.

    How many times to do we go 5 wide? What is that compared to how many times we keep a RB back to block? What are the coverages when we do it? What type of personnel are on the field from their defense? Are they running a 5-3 or a nickel?

    You do realize that all of these questions are asked and answered by the coaches in prep meetings and also on the field, right?

    Show us why your statement should be taken seriously?
    Well as Steve Martin used to say well excuse me. I thought short post were what people wanted. I lost track so please provide me with a bullet point on these 47 or so points you feal I need to address before I post.


    Last edited by ChiefCy; 11-16-2012 at 10:05 PM.

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    Re: Too much empty backfield

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCy View Post
    Telling D it isgoing to be a pass. Why not keep a backin for blocking and keep defense having to consider flare out passes as well asdraws and screens. Woody is a goodblocker and since receivers are not getting open and dropping passes why nothave one more back and one less receiver on the field.

    Just throwing it out for thoughts.
    Why bother with a back when the play is a simple read on two routes that should be made quickly. It's not like our QBs are going to make that 3rd read to the back very often. The back just allows another guy in the box that could blitz.



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    Re: Too much empty backfield

    Even if we're telegraphing pass, everybody still needs to be covered. And most teams should not get their five receivers covered with five or even six guys.



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