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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by scyclonekid View Post
    Well I would say selling out Hilton is a good start and having Fred and staff here. Again its heading in the right direction and yes there will be some bumps along the way.
    The best sign? 12K+ announced attendance for Alabama AnM.

    ALABAMA ANM!!!

    The second best sign? We were 16-2 at home last year, so clearly the Magic is back.



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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    The recruiting class sure fizzled after the first 2 commitments. I hope that is a 1 year stumble.
    I would be love to have "stumbles" like this year's class.



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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyFive View Post
    The best sign? 12K+ announced attendance for Alabama AnM.

    ALABAMA ANM!!!

    The second best sign? We were 16-2 at home last year, so clearly the Magic is back.
    The Magic doesn't get involved with Alabama A&M. If it does, things are not going well.
    It's not Magic when we kick the pigsnot out of some terrible team.


    Since we are an elite team now, let's go get that One Cyclone Moment.
    Make this one for the ages!




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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    Farnsworth is the winner of this thread!


    Last edited by isugcs; 11-13-2012 at 09:10 PM. Reason: recongnition
    "I think that people are responding to someone standing up and saying this is what we want to do and let's not be afraid to go for it,'' Pollard said. "I think Iowa State has a very conservative, modest background. We never pound our chest and say `Let's do it.' It's OK to set a goal. You can't do it if you don't say what you want to do. You should be proud of it.''

    Jamie Pollard, 6/2/2006

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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    I think it's a great point. I really think this has 9 guys who are Big 12 quality starters. I'm not sure if the star is there this year but Iowa State has had very few teams through the years that have been this deep.



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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    It won't get it done in the B12. Need more than 2 quality players.



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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    It won't get it done in the B12. Need more than 2 quality players.
    I did not realize:

    a.) that the entire roster turns over every year. I thought we could combined "quality players" from multiple classes, but if this is not true, you may have a point.
    b.) that we will only be adding two quality players. We have had plenty of previous quality players that were unheralded recruits.
    c.) that we are done recruiting. Seems like you are forgetting recruiting has changed. In fact, many of our best players on each of Fred's first three rosters were picked up after the early signing period. There will be "quality players" available in the spring/summer, and room at ISU if needed.

    If ISU gets the 25th ranked class every year, we will have success not yet seen at ISU.



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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    This won't be a top 25 class. Assuming Edizie signs, that is. We've whiffed on a lean group of bigs. It happens but next year needs to be better. I think it will be but the rest of theBig 12 isn't messing around.


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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    Whole-heartedly agree. And now news of Edozie! smh...


    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    The recruiting class sure fizzled after the first 2 commitments. I hope that is a 1 year stumble.



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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    I know I am going to get some static from fanatics. Whatever it be... HORRIBLE recruitment of big men for 2013 & 2014 classes, aside from Hoiberg's recruitment of 2014 Abu, which I don't think we stand a snowballs chance in **** getting.



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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    Yeah, as it appears, we missed on 2013 bigs. However, mjhavlo76, don't you think it's a little early to bag on the 2014 class?




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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAgronomist View Post
    Yeah, as it appears, we missed on 2013 bigs. However, mjhavlo76, don't you think it's a little early to bag on the 2014 class?
    It's not nearly as bad as the 2017 class.



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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    This won't be a top 25 class. Assuming Edizie signs, that is. We've whiffed on a lean group of bigs. It happens but next year needs to be better. I think it will be but the rest of theBig 12 isn't messing around.
    It will not go down due to Edizie signing, it will go down due to the undeclared ranked players going elsewhere.

    Again, a class like this every year will lead to success not seen at ISU. 2 top 100 guys (1 being a top-50) in every class, surrounded by the proper role players will have ISU competing for deep NCAA tournament runs.
    Then there is the other glaring fallacy of your posts- assuming we are done recruiting. Jones could be considered in this class, but non-high school recruits are often not considered quality recruits by old timers.



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    I know it won't go down because of Edozie but if we sign him that means were not finding someone that will help boost the ranking. The 3 jucos that we look to be signing are frankly underwhelming. It's not because the staff isn't trying. I hope nobody thinks I believe that. This isn't the type of class that leads to Big 12 titles. I'm quite confident that we'll be fine. It's only one class and it certainly isn't a bad class by any stretch. It just doesn't keep up with the Joneses.


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    Re: Positive signs program is on the rise

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    I know it won't go down because of Edozie but if we sign him that means were not finding someone that will help boost the ranking. The 3 jucos that we look to be signing are frankly underwhelming. It's not because the staff isn't trying. I hope nobody thinks I believe that. This isn't the type of class that leads to Big 12 titles. I'm quite confident that we'll be fine. It's only one class and it certainly isn't a bad class by any stretch. It just doesn't keep up with the Joneses.
    I agree with everything you've been saying but there is the possibility that one of those JUCOs could turn out to be a Gilstrap type player who is actually much better than where they are ranked. It happens more often with big men too which helps our chances.



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