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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

    Kirby is a junior. Though it wouldn't totally surprise me if he decided to go pro after this year. It's not like punters get drafted and he is for sure good enough to get a job with an NFL team.



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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

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    Kirby????

    Steele Jantz in the NFL is laughable.
    AY YAY!

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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

    These things never turn out the way they are scrip-ted on CF.


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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

    Maybe I'm stretching a little to compare Knott and Klein to Greenway at this point but I guess I'm looking at the potential and work ethic of these guys. They have the talent to do it but of course they need to get in the right system and after that I'll leave it up to them and how hard they work which is why I think they'll be very successful.



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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWarning View Post
    Kirby????
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    Kirby is a junior. Though it wouldn't totally surprise me if he decided to go pro after this year. It's not like punters get drafted and he is for sure good enough to get a job with an NFL team.
    Not the brightest bunch around here sometimes. For Kirby to leave early, he would have to be...actually nevermind, I'm not even going to try. A punter/kicker would not leave early and it would make zero sense for a team to draft a kicker/punter who has left early. They are the most replaceable position in the NFL.



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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

    Knott and Klein will live and die by their 40time/combine results. They've proven almost everything they can on the field. Could be honestly as high as first or second round (if they do phenomenal) or both go undrafted if they do poorly.



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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

    Quote Originally Posted by Cybyassociation View Post
    Not the brightest bunch around here sometimes. For Kirby to leave early, he would have to be...actually nevermind, I'm not even going to try. A punter/kicker would not leave early and it would make zero sense for a team to draft a kicker/punter who has left early. They are the most replaceable position in the NFL.
    Which is why the next sentence after the one you highlighted was "It's not like punters get drafted". He's an undrafted free agent who would find a home somewhere if he left early this year. And if he waited until next year he'd be an undrafted free agent who would find a home somewhere. I'm not advocating him leaving or anything, I'm just pointing out that he wouldn't gain anything NFL-wise by staying for his last year.



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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

    Quote Originally Posted by Judoka View Post
    Which is why the next sentence after the one you highlighted was "It's not like punters get drafted". He's an undrafted free agent who would find a home somewhere if he left early this year. And if he waited until next year he'd be an undrafted free agent who would find a home somewhere. I'm not advocating him leaving or anything, I'm just pointing out that he wouldn't gain anything NFL-wise by staying for his last year.
    He would gain a degree. If there is a position where you would definitely want to finish your college degree it would be kick/punter. I don't think they get paid that much and you may never make it to the leauge. Sorry, players don't leave school early hoping to be picked up as undrafted free agents.



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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

    Quote Originally Posted by Judoka View Post
    Which is why the next sentence after the one you highlighted was "It's not like punters get drafted". He's an undrafted free agent who would find a home somewhere if he left early this year. And if he waited until next year he'd be an undrafted free agent who would find a home somewhere. I'm not advocating him leaving or anything, I'm just pointing out that he wouldn't gain anything NFL-wise by staying for his last year.
    I read that, and this, as he is good enough right now for an NFL team. There aren't a lot of athletes, let alone any at ISU (especially a punter) that are ready to leave college a year early. Don't get me wrong, I really do believe that Kirby will find himself on an NFL roster someday, but it absolutely stupid to think it would be next year.



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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

    I hope Jantz can at least make it to a training camp. He has all the ability, and hes very accurate. He could have a sky high completion percentage if he had reliable WR's. But honestly not many NFL people are going to be watching much film of Iowa States offense this year sad to say.


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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

    Did someone actually even think about a PUNTER leaving school early to go Pro? JFC


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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

    If Kirby was to leave early he would be getting the worst advice from people he trusted. Only a fool or a money hungry leach would advise a punter or kicker to leave school early unless he was guaranteed a high draft pick. I think he will be punting in the nfl because of his incredible ability to place the ball close to the goal line. I also thought Ryan Donahue from Iowa was a sure bet to make it in the pros so take my thoughts with a grain of salt.



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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWarning View Post
    Kirby????

    Steele Jantz in the NFL is laughable.
    Its the NFL and the QB position.

    Being a competent college player is not a pre-requisite if you have size and arm strength, which Jantz does. I don't think anyone is saying that Jantz's play makes him NFL worthy, but the NFL doesn't really care if you're a good college QB or not.


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    Potential is worth a lot.


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    Re: NFL Draftscout early draft projections

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    Its the NFL and the QB position.

    Being a competent college player is not a pre-requisite if you have size and arm strength, which Jantz does. I don't think anyone is saying that Jantz's play makes him NFL worthy, but the NFL doesn't really care if you're a good college QB or not.
    Yup. Not a lot of people thought Josh Freeman was good enough to sniff an NFL roster, now he's a starter. And I don't think anyone would have called Ryan Tannehill as a first-round draft pick at any point during the season last year.



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