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    Big 12 Expansion

    Seeing how competitive the Big 12 is now, would you like to see us add a few schools to round out the league? I have heard a lot of people say they are happy with how things are, especially money wise. HOWEVER, look at that Iowa Hawkeyes schedule and tell me you wouldn't kill for a few more cupcake games.



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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

    Problem is there are few teams that would make things easier that are both available and yet good enough brands that it wouldnt be a big pay cut.

    The real killer is the 9 game schedule, but that doesnt seem to be going away even if we expand.



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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

    It wont happen because for financial reasons, and sadly money is the only thing that drives this. But from a football and competitive standpoint 12 teams would be the best thing for us.


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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

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    the round-robin schedule. It offers the fairest possible conference title format in both football and basketball. The resulting television product is attractive to broadcast, but TV companies don't have to feed 12, 14, or maybe 16 mouths. I think in time we'll see a tighter sense of community amongst the schools, both in competition against each other (loving to hate each other) and in competition against other conferences.

    I know people want to see a title game and divisions, but I don't know that they're worth it. The revenue increase would have to be particularly substantial to make expansion worth it in my mind, like Notre Dame and Florida State.

    Or (for the sake of argument) it would have to involve significant rivalry implications within the conference like Nebraska - Iowa or Penn State - Pittsburgh. For obvious reasons, this will never happen.



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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

    Louisville and Cincinnati create a pathway to West Virginia. That way we can go back to north/south... if we could be so lucky.



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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

    I'd be all for adding Louisville and Pitt. Or FSU and Clemson. Even Louisville and BYU. Even if the money is a little lower, I'd like to get to 12. Stability and being clearly better than the ACC would be a big plus.



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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

    I would love to have Colorado back on the schedule.


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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by whirlybirds View Post
    I would love to have Colorado back on the schedule.
    same with nebraska. i enjoy hating them



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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

    If we're not going to expand we have to change our name. Big 12 with 10 teams is ****ing stupid.



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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by Frak View Post
    I'd be all for adding Louisville and Pitt. Or FSU and Clemson. Even Louisville and BYU. Even if the money is a little lower, I'd like to get to 12. Stability and being clearly better than the ACC would be a big plus.
    Why is stability better with 12? We had 12 and were not stable. The number doesn't make it stable, economic viability and a sense of belonging do. I think we have that with 10.



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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by iacyguy View Post
    same with nebraska. i enjoy hating them
    YES!



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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

    We are stable now.

    Dont want to add scrubs.

    Like playing everyone.

    We will have same number of conf games no matter how many teams due to tv money...so no change there.


    stay like we are.



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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by xr4ticlone View Post
    We are stable now.

    Dont want to add scrubs.

    Like playing everyone.

    We will have same number of conf games no matter how many teams due to tv money...so no change there.


    stay like we are.
    Completely agree with the way the new contracts have been written we are a pretty stable league.



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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

    I feel like I've been here before. Weird.



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    Re: Big 12 Expansion

    90% of the time the BCS computer average is higher than human voting polls for Big 12 teams.

    Human beings are not intelligent and objective enough to give the Big 12 credit for playing the toughest schedules in the nation. Every Big 12 team is being penalized for it. There is a highly ranked SEC team with a 98 SOS rank yet the idiot human voter perception is that SEC schedules are all brutal.

    If money is king, fine. But it's a fact that this current mix of teams and playing 9 games hurts the Big 12 competitively in football. For hoops there's no drawback at all though.

    The hilarious thing is you still hear Big 12 fans complain about the computer 1/3 of the BCS like all other college football fans. Big 12 fans should want a 100% computer BCS ranking. It's the only way we won't be bent over and raped by the rankings every single year.



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