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    "Suddenly resurgent, Iowa State"

    Apparently some are taking note of our Cyclones. This from the Denver Post.

    Memo to LSU, KU: Win and you're in
    Jayhawks likely to leapfrog No. 2 Oregon if they don't lose
    By John Henderson
    The Denver Post
    Article Last Updated: 11/12/2007 02:14:10 AM MST


    The Kansas Jayhawks are reaching lofty goals, and reaching even higher. (Getty Images / Jamie Squire)Louisiana State and Kansas don't have a whole lot in common. They've never played each other in football. One has a rich football tradition, the other has a rich basketball tradition. One has great food, the other has a rich basketball tradition.

    But one thing they do have in common separates them from the other 117 teams in Division I-A. They are the only schools that can determine their destiny to the BCS Championship.

    Don't let Sunday's latest BCS rankings fool you. Yes, LSU (9-1) is first, Oregon (8-1) is second and Kansas (10-0) is third. However, if everyone wins out, LSU and Kansas should be ranked 1-2 and make the BCS title game in New Orleans on Jan. 7.

    "I think Kansas jumps everybody if they're 13-0," said Jerry Palm, analyst for Collegebcs.com.

    Kansas hasn't played anyone? You're right. None of its 10 wins have come against a team that received a single vote in Sunday's Associated Press top 25. Its strength of schedule is ranked 85th. But that will change. In a hurry.

    If the Jayhawks beat suddenly resurgent Iowa State (3-8) at home Saturday, they will play Missouri (9-1), fifth in the BCS, in Kansas City, Mo., and then probably No. 4 Oklahoma (9-1) in the Big 12 Championship on Dec. 1 in San Antonio. Kansas is ranked fourth in the coaches and Harris polls, which make up two-thirds of the BCS formula. Wins over the No. 5 and 4 teams in the BCS would certainly move Kansas ahead of Oregon in the polls and, thus, in the BCS standings.

    Oregon's problem is, unlike Kansas, it has no marquee games left. It visits Arizona (4-6) on Thursday, then UCLA (5-5) and hosts Oregon State (6-4) on Dec. 1.

    Everyone, especially Oregon, received a huge break when Illinois knocked off top-ranked Ohio State on Saturday. Now the Ducks need someone to beat Kansas. If Kansas falls from the unbeatens, Palm said it's unlikely that Oklahoma or Missouri would jump ahead

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    of Oregon even with a Big 12 title.
    "I think it gets closer," Palm said. "Even if computers put them higher than Oregon, Oregon will be ahead in the polls."

    Considering nine unranked teams have upset schools in the top five this year, title-contending coaches would rather discuss the glory of sports agents than the BCS rankings. Kansas linebacker Joe Mortensen said after Saturday night's win at Oklahoma State, "Coach (Mark Mangino) doesn't let us talk about it. He gives us humble pie. Right now, it's Iowa State, and we don't want to get too ahead of ourselves."

    Oregon coach Mike Bellotti knows all too well that even if you take care of your own business it doesn't guarantee anything.

    "I don't trust the BCS at all," he said Sunday. "In 2001 or 2005, we should've been in the BCS championship one year and in a BCS bowl in the other."

    While LSU and Kansas would save the BCS from a controversy it luckily avoided the past two seasons, a Kansas loss would ignite a major debate about one-loss teams. Oregon lost at home to a four-loss California team. Oklahoma lost at 5-6 Colorado. Missouri lost only to Oklahoma and it would've avenged the loss in the Big 12 championship.

    Bellotti said: "It's a beauty contest. I'm not going to influence what other people think."

    No, but, as Palm said, "Style points are important for everybody."

    A Kansas loss would have Oregon, Oklahoma, Missouri and even No. 6 West Virginia (8-1) strutting their stuff in front of any TV or voter they can find.

    "If Oregon wins the way it's expected to win, no teams other than Kansas can jump them," Palm said.

    Not even Oklahoma? It will have beaten Missouri twice.

    "We already know Oklahoma beat Missouri. If they beat them again, so what?" Palm said. "Look at Oklahoma's nonconference schedule. Oregon is in a better league. (Oklahoma) played two of the five worst teams in the country: North Texas and Utah State. Miami (which had a 48-0 loss at home to Virginia on Saturday) ain't helping them any, either."

    As for all the BCS bowls, it's way too close to speculate, but we will anyway:



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    Re: "Suddenly resurgent, Iowa State"

    Considering nine unranked teams have upset schools in the top five this year, title-contending coaches would rather discuss the glory of sports agents than the BCS rankings. Kansas linebacker Joe Mortensen said after Saturday night's win at Oklahoma State, "Coach (Mark Mangino) doesn't let us talk about it. He gives us humble pie. Right now, it's Iowa State, and we don't want to get too ahead of ourselves."
    Aww thats too bad


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    Re: "Suddenly resurgent, Iowa State"

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    Aww thats too bad

    I dont buy it. Who here believes Mangino would be giving away pie?



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    Re: "Suddenly resurgent, Iowa State"

    The Kansas Jayhawks are reaching lofty goals, and reaching even higher. (Getty Images / Jamie Squire)Louisiana State and Kansas don't have a whole lot in common. They've never played each other in football. One has a rich football tradition, the other has a rich basketball tradition. One has great food, the other has a rich basketball tradition
    Haha I love it.


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    Re: "Suddenly resurgent, Iowa State"

    "We already know Oklahoma beat Missouri. If they beat them again, so what?" Palm said. "Look at Oklahoma's nonconference schedule. Oregon is in a better league. (Oklahoma) played two of the five worst teams in the country: North Texas and Utah State. Miami (which had a 48-0 loss at home to Virginia on Saturday) ain't helping them any, either."
    Really?? Is the Pac-10 really better than the Big 12?



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    Re: "Suddenly resurgent, Iowa State"

    Quote Originally Posted by letsgostate View Post
    Considering nine unranked teams have upset schools in the top five this year, title-contending coaches would rather discuss the glory of sports agents than the BCS rankings. Kansas linebacker Joe Mortensen said after Saturday night's win at Oklahoma State, "Coach (Mark Mangino) doesn't let us talk about it. He gives us humble pie. Right now, it's Iowa State, and we don't want to get too ahead of ourselves."
    By the looks of it, Mangino doesn't share his pie with anybody...


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    Re: "Suddenly resurgent, Iowa State"

    Quote Originally Posted by bostinelosd View Post
    I dont buy it. Who here believes Mangino would be giving away pie?
    'Tis no man. 'Tis a remorseless eating machine.




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    Re: "Suddenly resurgent, Iowa State"

    Quote Originally Posted by 247cy View Post
    'Tis no man. 'Tis a remorseless eating machine.

    Lionel Hutz: Now, Mrs. Simpson, tell the court in your own words what happened after you and your husband were ejected out of the restaurant.
    Marge: Well, we pretty much went straight home.
    Lionel Hutz: Mrs. Simpson, remember that you are under oath.
    Marge: We drove around until three in the morning looking for another open all-you-can-eat seafood restaurant.
    Lionel Hutz: And when you couldn't find one?
    Marge: [crying] We... went... fishing.
    Lionel Hutz: Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, do these sound like the actions of a man whose had ALL he could eat?
    [the jury is made up of fat, obese people]
    Jury: No, no.
    Jury Man: No, that couldn't 've been me.



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