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    Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists



    Collegiate 2012 Butkus Award Semi-Finalists:

    Steve Beauharnais Rutgers
    Arthur Brown Kansas State
    Jonathan Brown Illinois
    Max Bullough Michigan State
    Gerald Hodges Penn State
    Jarvis Jones* Georgia
    Dion Jordan Oregon
    Michael Mauti Penn State
    Kevin Minter LSU
    C.J. Mosley Alabama
    Trent Murphy Stanford
    Manti Te'o* Notre Dame

    * Denotes 2011 Semi-Finalist



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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    Is Arthur Brown really better than Knott and Klein? Or is K-State better that Iowa State?

    In other words, would Arthur Brown have been picked if he wasn't on an undefeated team? Or would Knott and/or Klein have been picked if we had beaten K-State? Or would Knott and/or Klein have been picked if only one was on our team?



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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    I am ****** off by this, but at the same time it doesn't surprise me.



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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycsk View Post
    Is Arthur Brown really better than Knott and Klein? Or is K-State better that Iowa State?

    In other words, would Arthur Brown have been picked if he wasn't on an undefeated team? Or would Knott and/or Klein have been picked if we had beaten K-State? Or would Knott and/or Klein have been picked if only one was on our team?
    Arthur Brown may be the best LB in all of college football. He will definitely be drafted higher than both Knott and Klein.


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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan964 View Post
    Arthur Brown may be the best LB in all of college football. He will definitely be drafted higher than both Knott and Klein.
    Agreed. Arthur Brown being on the list is correct. Klein and Knott being left off is ridiculous.

    Well, they can go kiss my Butkus.



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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycsk View Post
    Is Arthur Brown really better than Knott and Klein? Or is K-State better that Iowa State?

    In other words, would Arthur Brown have been picked if he wasn't on an undefeated team? Or would Knott and/or Klein have been picked if we had beaten K-State? Or would Knott and/or Klein have been picked if only one was on our team?
    Besides the guy from Illinois, you have a point. It usually seems to work this way though.



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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    I doubt any more than 5 of these guys go before K&K in the draft. Te'o is odds on to win this, but after that, I'd put our guys up against any of them.


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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    They both should be finalists for this award. But ya Te'o has already won this award.



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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    Two Penn State guys? How did Iowa play against PSU vs us and the 2Ks?


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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan964 View Post
    Arthur Brown may be the best LB in all of college football. He will definitely be drafted higher than both Knott and Klein.
    Brown is fast for a guy with safety size at linebacker. He doesnt have the size to. Play linebacker at the next level.



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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    Most of these awards are shallow and political. No way these two shouldn't be finalists.



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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Two Penn State guys? How did Iowa play against PSU vs us and the 2Ks?
    well they lost them both sooooo, what are we talking about again? (just don't care about iowa at this point in season)

    But man, these awards are just dumb, they are only going off team name alone for some of those guys (the ones already mentioned for ND and KSU are among the legits of course.) It's really a disgrace that at least 1 (let alone both) of our guys aren't on there. Klein and Knott both can have legit disputes with this list.


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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    Quote Originally Posted by huntt26 View Post


    Collegiate 2012 Butkus Award Semi-Finalists:

    Steve Beauharnais Rutgers
    Arthur Brown Kansas State
    Jonathan Brown Illinois
    Max Bullough Michigan State
    Gerald Hodges Penn State
    Jarvis Jones* Georgia
    Dion Jordan Oregon
    Michael Mauti Penn State
    Kevin Minter LSU
    C.J. Mosley Alabama
    Trent Murphy Stanford
    Manti Te'o* Notre Dame

    * Denotes 2011 Semi-Finalist

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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    Jonathan Brown..........HAHAHAHA!


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    Re: Klein and Knott are not Butkus Finalists

    If you're them, you can't have two LBs from Iowa State. While we all agree they deserve it, the selection committee would probably get some grief for taking both. So, who do you pick? They are both so good, they cancelled each other out.



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