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    Until we recruit better players.....

    .500 and being in the bottom 1/3rd of the conference will be the ceiling. I'm not saying fire CPR because historically we've been worse than that more times than not.

    I really see no breakout season at this point. We're very likely going to suck again next year at QB. Unless one of our incoming QB's is good, we're not going to keep up with B12 teams offensively in the near future.

    I see no signs of improved recruiting, unfortunately. If we are going to get 2 stars with no other BCS offers and develop them into winning football players, we should probably switch to a different style of offense, because we won't succeed in this conference running the same scheme that most of the rest of the teams run (minus the explosive athletes).



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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    .500 would be swell!



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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    People never want to believe it and love to point to the exception but there is generally a reason why our recruits don't have BCS offers. Recruiting needs to improve, especially at QB.



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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    ding ding ding

    At some point, gotta get better players.



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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    This defense is loaded with no names out of high school. The problem is the no names playing offensive line and quarterback are not good.



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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    I guess that I might not live to see a top 10 ISU football team



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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    Quote Originally Posted by acgclone View Post
    .500 and being in the bottom 1/3rd of the conference will be the ceiling. I'm not saying fire CPR because historically we've been worse than that more times than not.

    I really see no breakout season at this point. We're very likely going to suck again next year at QB. Unless one of our incoming QB's is good, we're not going to keep up with B12 teams offensively in the near future.

    I see no signs of improved recruiting, unfortunately. If we are going to get 2 stars with no other BCS offers and develop them into winning football players, we should probably switch to a different style of offense, because we won't succeed in this conference running the same scheme that most of the rest of the teams run (minus the explosive athletes).
    To be completely honest, being a .500 team in this conference with lower tier bowl trips 3/4 years is good enough considering all of our geographic/demographic disadvantages. However, it would be nice if we could catch lighting in a bottle ala KU with Reesing every once in a while.

    Every bottom dwelling team in the Big 12 has gone on a run in the past decade except for us. We are due aren't we? The only problem I see is that all those teams (Mizzou, KU, Baylor, Okie State) have had excellent QB play during those runs. That's what's missing for us, obviously.


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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    I don't understand why a snot-nosed stud 18-year-old QB would rather go somewhere, sit in a sysem, and hopefully play 1 or 2 years (or ride the bench, like will happen with Walsh upon Lunt's retun) instead of coming to ISU to step in and lead the offense for 3 or 4 years.



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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    Exactly, OP. Exactly



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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    Quote Originally Posted by atlantacyclone View Post
    I guess that I might not live to see a top 10 ISU football team
    I saw it in 2002. It was ugly.



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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndCyCE View Post
    I don't understand why a snot-nosed stud 18-year-old QB would rather go somewhere, sit in a sysem, and hopefully play 1 or 2 years (or ride the bench, like will happen with Walsh upon Lunt's retun) instead of coming to ISU to step in and lead the offense for 3 or 4 years.
    THIS. Completely agree. Congrats Walsh on your steller performance but have fun going back to the bench for the next 4 seasons.


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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndCyCE View Post
    I don't understand why a snot-nosed stud 18-year-old QB would rather go somewhere, sit in a sysem, and hopefully play 1 or 2 years (or ride the bench, like will happen with Walsh upon Lunt's retun) instead of coming to ISU to step in and lead the offense for 3 or 4 years.
    It's amazing how low my expectations have been for our QB's over the past years ever since...hell...Seneca. And while Meyer, Arnaud, Jantz, Barnett have all had moments. We just aren't getting better at this postion, we're getting worse. It's just bad that I would take any other Big 12 team's starting QB (other than maybe KU) and quite a few of the team's backups as well over our latest QB's.

    Gotta recruit better and it is perplexing why a kid would wanna go elsewhere. Think how beloved a 4 year starting stud QB would be here at ISU rather than riding the pine somewhere else. We're a team who needs to get over a hump to get out of mediocrity and above average (not even dominant) QB play would be enough to get us to 8+ win seasons. but I think for now we are stuck with hoping we can right the ship even just enough to get to a bowl game @ 6 wins and hope you win #7 so you don't end up under .500



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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    Quote Originally Posted by acgclone View Post
    .500 and being in the bottom 1/3rd of the conference will be the ceiling. I'm not saying fire CPR because historically we've been worse than that more times than not.

    I really see no breakout season at this point. We're very likely going to suck again next year at QB. Unless one of our incoming QB's is good, we're not going to keep up with B12 teams offensively in the near future.

    I see no signs of improved recruiting, unfortunately. If we are going to get 2 stars with no other BCS offers and develop them into winning football players, we should probably switch to a different style of offense, because we won't succeed in this conference running the same scheme that most of the rest of the teams run (minus the explosive athletes).
    Just because you're too blind and stupid to see it, doesn't make it so.




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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndCyCE View Post
    I don't understand why a snot-nosed stud 18-year-old QB would rather go somewhere, sit in a sysem, and hopefully play 1 or 2 years (or ride the bench, like will happen with Walsh upon Lunt's retun) instead of coming to ISU to step in and lead the offense for 3 or 4 years.
    Really? Nothing comes to mind saying otherwise....



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    Re: Until we recruit better players.....

    Wish we could have hit a Seneca with our better defense and skill players this year.


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