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    OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    I have watched all of the games, been to a couple and I still do not have a great read on the OL play. The coaches keep talking about guys not playing well, not getting to the right place, skill players not executing correctly, but from what I can see the OL is basically getting man handled. Am I missing something the coaches are seeing? Does anyone else think it is just a matter of execution, and not that the line is getting overpowered?



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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    I thought they gave great protection against KSU. I'm not sure we ran enough to establish anything on that.



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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    I have watched all of the games, been to a couple and I still do not have a great read on the OL play. The coaches keep talking about guys not playing well, not getting to the right place, skill players not executing correctly, but from what I can see the OL is basically getting man handled. Am I missing something the coaches are seeing? Does anyone else think it is just a matter of execution, and not that the line is getting overpowered?
    Hmmm. Good question. We think there might be another reason the OL isn't quite as good this year.

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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    I think it is the hardest position on the field to evaluate and I'm not certain there is anything that terribly wrong with it.



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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    They've been pretty good in pass protection and pretty bad in the run game.


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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    Biggest thing I've noticed is they suck at picking up stunts/blitzes and any kind of trickery by the defense.



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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    Ben Bruns was on the Champ today and it sounds like the OL lacks consistency and execution sometimes.

    He talked about a specific play where an OL man didn't scrape off properly from a KSU DL man that was already engaged to take on a LB. So instead of a 2 yd hole there should have been an 8 yd hole.



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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    I pay attention to the OL. I would rate them above average on pass protection. And inconsistent on run blocking. (Often times it's hard to evaluate the OL's performance because of the defense "stacking the box".) If the defense can stop the run by plugging in numbers, and the offense is unable to make them pay for doing that, then it may look like the line is unable to open running lanes, but, in fact its not really the OL's fault. IMO.



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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    I thought they gave great protection against KSU. I'm not sure we ran enough to establish anything on that.
    Part of the problem against KSU was that they basically played vanilla defense the entire game and our offense still couldn't get much done against them. They didn't have to stack the box to control our running game and they could rush 4, drop 8 into coverage on passing plays which isn't a recipe for success.



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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    its hopeless. I'm a glass half empty kind of guy



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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by bosco View Post
    Ben Bruns was on the Champ today and it sounds like the OL lacks consistency and execution sometimes.

    He talked about a specific play where an OL man didn't scrape off properly from a KSU DL man that was already engaged to take on a LB. So instead of a 2 yd hole there should have been an 8 yd hole.
    Sounds like trickery will fool them. They need Peyton Manning at qb to tell them what to do.


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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by shagcarpetjesus View Post
    Part of the problem against KSU was that they basically played vanilla defense the entire game and our offense still couldn't get much done against them. They didn't have to stack the box to control our running game and they could rush 4, drop 8 into coverage on passing plays which isn't a recipe for success.
    If every team is able to play 12 guys against us on D I don't like our chances.



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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ficklone02 View Post
    If every team is able to play 12 guys against us on D I don't like our chances.
    THIS! Do we have any plays where we can get 12 guts on the field?!? I feel that extra blocker would be extremely useful! Someone needs to suggest this to the coaches as we are at a huge disadvantage.



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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    But do we put the 12th guy out wide or line him up in the backfield for an extra blocker, or where do we put this extra guy. Seems like a good idea, but I wonder if the coaches have thought about this and how they would implement this type of strategy.



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    Re: OL play, is it just a little off or hopeless?

    Quote Originally Posted by cydline2cydline View Post
    THIS! Do we have any plays where we can get 12 guts on the field?!? I feel that extra blocker would be extremely useful! Someone needs to suggest this to the coaches as we are at a huge disadvantage.
    I don't want guts on the field. Our guys need all the innards they can get.


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