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    regarding end of Colorado game...

    Yes, the refs DID blow the call. The game should have been declared over after the penalty was called. Here is what the rule book says. "The referee shall order the game clock started or stopped whenever either team conserves or consumes playing time by tactics obviously unfair."

    Snapping the ball before it has been set to conserve time is "obviously unfair." They should have just let the clock keep running.



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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    Good find. I also read in Boulder paper that after a penality against the kicking team, the clock starts on the next snap..can you find that passage?



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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    What is unfair if the team is only following the rules. When there is no rule like in the NFL to prevent teams from doing something like that, then the team has every right to do what they can to prevent the clock from stopping. And to have a rule that makes refs use an assumption of fair versus unfair is ridiculous. No one should have the opprotunity within a game to justify if something is fair or not, that in it's own right is unfair!


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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    That particular rule wouldn't matter in this instance. When they hiked the ball prematurely, they were "unfairly" trying to conserve time. Had they not hiked the ball prematurely then time would have expired. End of argument.



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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    There is not judement call about whether it was fair or unfair. If they hadn't snapped the ball early the clock would have run out. That is "obviously unfair".



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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    Quote Originally Posted by UofICy View Post
    There is not judement call about whether it was fair or unfair. If they hadn't snapped the ball early the clock would have run out. That is "obviously unfair".
    I agree, but it will be interesting to see what the NCAA says. I'm with you, the game should have been over before the second kick.



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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    Quote Originally Posted by UofICy View Post
    That particular rule wouldn't matter in this instance. When they hiked the ball prematurely, they were "unfairly" trying to conserve time. Had they not hiked the ball prematurely then time would have expired. End of argument.

    Though I dont like the tactics, the idea behind the play is not unfair because its not against the rules. Yes there is a penalty to it, but not in the context that the NFL uses with the time run-off. I will agree to disagree on this, but this play, within the NCAA, is not unfair. Next year I hope its a different story!


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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    Seemed within the rules to me. Don't care though...

    Won won!



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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    Seemed within the rules to me. Don't care though...

    Won won!
    Well like stated in that article that was posted. It shouldn't have come down to the play. It's great that we won, it's great we came back, but if I was a CU fan, that's just sad that it ended that way when your up 21-0.


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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    How can you say it's not against the rules when there is a RULE stating exactly the opposite. Here it is again.

    "The referee shall order the game clock started or stopped whenever either team conserves or consumes playing time by tactics obviously unfair."

    So taking a penalty to simply conserve time and give you another chance to score is, by THIS rule UNFAIR. You will not win this argument. It IS the RULE.



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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    I am not sure it was unfair. The center just had to do his job and try his best to get it off before the clock expired. Looking back at it, I am not sure they actually got it off before the clock expired. I still think it was over before the first kick was snapped.


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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    If it was a false start penalty that a colorado player wasn't set then the 10 sec. penalty should have happened. If I was a Colorado fan I would be ****** at the refs for not spotting the ball quicker. They should have had that ball set and ready before 17 seconds went off the clock. Either way that center has got to know that the clock was going to expire right when the whistle blew. I wonder if the crowd noise prevented him from hearing it.



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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    Quote Originally Posted by UofICy View Post
    How can you say it's not against the rules when there is a RULE stating exactly the opposite. Here it is again.

    "The referee shall order the game clock started or stopped whenever either team conserves or consumes playing time by tactics obviously unfair."

    So taking a penalty to simply conserve time and give you another chance to score is, by THIS rule UNFAIR. You will not win this argument. It IS the RULE.

    First off, that quote is unfair. You are making refs make a judgement call on what is allowed within a game. Where is the crossing line of what is fair versus unfair. That quote is to vague and needs revised.

    Secondly, when a team lets the play clock wind down to take time off of the game clock, isn't that unfair. I mean they havn't even huddled to call in a play, they are just standing their waiting.

    The point I'm trying to make is this, there are many tactics with football that could be classified as unfair, and some don't even have penalties attached to them. This one does, but its within the rules of the game thus not making it unfair just like the rest of them.


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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonehomer View Post
    If it was a false start penalty that a colorado player wasn't set then the 10 sec. penalty should have happened. If I was a Colorado fan I would be ****** at the refs for not spotting the ball quicker. They should have had that ball set and ready before 17 seconds went off the clock. Either way that center has got to know that the clock was going to expire right when the whistle blew. I wonder if the crowd noise prevented him from hearing it.

    Not to call you out, but just to clarify; there is no 10 sec. penalty within college football. Thus leaving the 1 sec. on the clock and giving them the 5 yeard penalty.


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    Re: regarding end of Colorado game...

    Quote Originally Posted by UofICy View Post
    How can you say it's not against the rules when there is a RULE stating exactly the opposite. Here it is again.

    "The referee shall order the game clock started or stopped whenever either team conserves or consumes playing time by tactics obviously unfair."

    So taking a penalty to simply conserve time and give you another chance to score is, by THIS rule UNFAIR. You will not win this argument. It IS the RULE.
    I agree, they obviously took the delay of game in order to set up for the kick. I think it was the right call... And it was the right call because we won



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