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    Tearing up linoleum

    Any do it yourself-ers here have experience with this? I pulled some of it up off our landing and am left with this paper backing(attached). How do I get it off the floor? Do I need to for peel and stick tile flooring? TIAClick image for larger version. 

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    Re: Tearing up linoleum

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    Any do it yourself-ers here have experience with this? I pulled some of it up off our landing and am left with this paper backing(attached). How do I get it off the floor? Do I need to for peel and stick tile flooring? TIAClick image for larger version. 

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    i used a heatgun and a scraper. It comes off in sheets in my experience.



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    Re: Tearing up linoleum

    If it's just that landing and there is underlayment below it I'd just peel up the undelayment and replace it.

    The value of my time messing around with a heat gun and scraper is higher than a sheet of underlayment.



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    Re: Tearing up linoleum

    Quote Originally Posted by GrindingAway View Post
    If it's just that landing and there is underlayment below it I'd just peel up the undelayment and replace it.

    The value of my time messing around with a heat gun and scraper is higher than a sheet of underlayment.
    I should note that I ended up doing this too. Just thought that option wasn't on the table.



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    Re: Tearing up linoleum

    Don't let Mike Holmes know you are doing this. He'll have you tent it for asbestos.

    In all seriousness though this is just one of those crap jobs that's labor intensive.



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    Re: Tearing up linoleum

    Anytime I get underlayment (substrate, adhesive residue, or the like) that sticks, one thing I consider is taking my circular saw, and setting the depth shallow (to roughly the depth what's got to come up) and score the area with repeated cuts throughout. Then I take my wonder bar or other scraping tool and hammer and scrape away. It still takes quite a bit of elbow grease, and sometimes doesn't work well at all. But it's usually worth a try, and can sometimes save you from running out to rent/ buy other tools. You'll know pretty quickly if its going to work or not.



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    Re: Tearing up linoleum

    Thanks for the advice all. Sounds like it is just going to be a crappy job.

    The landing is just my 'test plot'. I have a whole kitchen / bathroom/ entryway area to try to work with.

    I have an industrial air power chisel deal, but I am afraid it will tear up the wood underneath.

    Is the consensus that I need to removed the paper before putting the peel and stick tiles down?



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    Re: Tearing up linoleum

    I agree with the underlayment advice...you can even just put another layer overtop of the exiting linoleum if you don't want to tear it up



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    Re: Tearing up linoleum

    Wet the paper with a sponge. Let it soak. Use a putty knife. It will come up fairly easily.



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    Re: Tearing up linoleum

    Quote Originally Posted by BuffettClone View Post
    I agree with the underlayment advice...you can even just put another layer overtop of the exiting linoleum if you don't want to tear it up
    Maybe I'm channeling a little bit of my old crotchety grandpa, but there's something that feels better about knowing youre laying tile down on a good solid base, not just putting another layer on top of old **** linoleum. Just my opinion.



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    Re: Tearing up linoleum

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
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    Is the consensus that I need to removed the paper before putting the peel and stick tiles down?
    Depends on how long you are going to live in that house.

    If it wont come up by working at it will it ever come up on its own?


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    Re: Tearing up linoleum

    Quote Originally Posted by BuffettClone View Post
    I agree with the underlayment advice...you can even just put another layer overtop of the exiting linoleum if you don't want to tear it up
    If you do this take up the current linoleum to the paper/glue level, if you dont you may get a squeeky floor. You may still get one by putting another layer of underlayment.


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    Re: Tearing up linoleum

    Rotozip with a rigid scraper attachment will pull it up pretty easily, if you choose to take it out.



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    Re: Tearing up linoleum

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    Thanks for the advice all. Sounds like it is just going to be a crappy job.

    The landing is just my 'test plot'. I have a whole kitchen / bathroom/ entryway area to try to work with.

    I have an industrial air power chisel deal, but I am afraid it will tear up the wood underneath.

    Is the consensus that I need to removed the paper before putting the peel and stick tiles down?


    On this "test plot".....if it's sitting on quarter inch underlayment, I would get a bar underneath and tear up the u/l and replace with new. On your larger areas...if the glue down vinyl is solid...leave it alone. Scuff up the surface.... float it smooth with embossing floor leveler(menards, HD, Lowes)...then when that is dry, prime it with floor primer(menards, HD, Lowes) made to assist in keeping stick tile down. Always find the center point in your room, and start there with stick tiles. And make sure you rent a floor roller and roll the entire floor when you are done. Then you can stand back and go boom.......winning!



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