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    2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    I know last year's game was close, but I remember feeling that we were never going to get over the hump and win last year. I just looked at last year's stats, and wow... the only difference is the turnovers.

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    1 2 3 4 T
    ISU 13 0 7 3 23
    #8 KSU 7 10 3 10 30




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    1st Downs 24 20
    Total Yards 368 359
    Passing 153 158
    Rushing 215 201
    Penalties 4-30 2-20
    3rd Down Conversions 9-17 4-12
    4th Down Conversions 2-4 0-0
    Turnovers 2 0
    Possession 31:00 29:00



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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    While I like your post, I really believe that KSU 2012 is quite a bit better than KSU 2011.


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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    Yep, we gave them all they wanted last year. Just couldn't get over the hump.


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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    There was a bad play call on a late 4th down deep in KSU territory. IIRC, it was a stretch run to Woody that KSU saw coming a mile away and blew up deep in the backfield.


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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    There was a bad play call on a late 4th down deep in KSU territory. IIRC, it was a stretch run to Woody that KSU saw coming a mile away and blew up deep in the backfield.
    You are correct. It was a bit too conservative of a play call in that situation.



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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    While I like your post, I really believe that KSU 2012 is quite a bit better than KSU 2011.
    I hate this post especially from our own fans. Yes they are likely better. But are we also a better team? I think yes.



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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonestate78 View Post
    You are correct. It was a bit too conservative of a play call in that situation.
    Too predictable, IMO. We needed to get Barnett out on a run/pass option. It was like 4th and 1. KSU was just bringing everything right up the middle of the field.


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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    While I like your post, I really believe that KSU 2012 is quite a bit better than KSU 2011.
    I don't know if they're that much better. Remember, 2011 KSU won 10 games.


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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    While I like your post, I really believe that KSU 2012 is quite a bit better than KSU 2011.
    We are too. That game really could have gone either way, and if we play like we are capable of playing, this one can too.



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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    Quote Originally Posted by InMyOpinion View Post
    I know last year's game was close, but I remember feeling that we were never going to get over the hump and win last year. I just looked at last year's stats, and wow... the only difference is the turnovers.
    And that is a huge difference. Many times that turnover stat (other than scoreboard) is the one that seems to matter the most. That's why Snyder's teams are so successful, because they don't give the ball away on offense.

    If you knew nothing else, who would you guess won the game below?


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    1st Downs 15 24
    Total Yards 350 455
    Passing 198 270
    Rushing 152 185
    Penalties 5-43 6-70
    3rd Down Conversions 4-13 5-15
    4th Down Conversions 0-0 2-3
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    Possession 24:04 35:56

    TCU won the statistical game rather handily, but it was all wiped out by turnovers.


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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_4_State View Post
    There was a bad play call on a late 4th down deep in KSU territory. IIRC, it was a stretch run to Woody that KSU saw coming a mile away and blew up deep in the backfield.

    That was an incredible defensive move to dive under our line to break up the play.



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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    last three years combined we have lost by 19 points iirc.


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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    It has been a toss-up the past 3 years. KSU is better this year, but so is ISU. Time to get it done.



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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    I seem to remember the game really close at the very end... weren't we tied with about 3 minutes to go before KSU scored the game winner?


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    Re: 2011 KSU game was closer than I remembered

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    While I like your post, I really believe that KSU 2012 is quite a bit better than KSU 2011.
    So is ISU 2012! And it's finally back in Jack Trice!



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